Episode 117

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1st Mar 2023

117. Create and Maintain a Healthy Relationship with Ivana Bajic

Create and Maintain a Healthy Relationship with Ivana Bajic

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On this week's Wellness Wednesday episode Evan is joined by Ivana Bajic. Ivana is a yoga teacher, an author who's working on her first book, and a body movement specialist. In this episode Ivana and Evan dive deep on relationships covering topics from:

  • How to work on yourself to find the right intimate relationship
  • Ivana's top tip for finding the right person for you
  • How to keep a relationship healthy
  • How sexual energy can be used to manifest

Ivana shares insight on yogic teachings as well as her personal journey to find love and a healthy relationship. If you've been struggling to find the right person for you, or you want to work on the health of your relationship, then be sure to tune in for more information.

Do everything with good intentions and connect to your elements.


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podcast episode, which has been really awesome because I've had three or four

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of them already in a row, which is.

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Uh, not usually very common for me.

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So it's been really nice because I've been able to bring, you know, people

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with different perspectives and different specialties in health, onto the show and

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share their take and their information, which a lot of times it's information

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that I wouldn't have, or I would not have.

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Really looked at the health issue in that general, a way that they are so

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really excited to be able to bring on to the show today, Ivana by Jake,

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who is a really great friend of mine.

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Uh, it's an honor to have her on the show.

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She is a coach and a writer.

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She's actually writing her first book as we speak.

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Uh, it's really awesome.

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And I can't wait to get my hands on it when she finally releases it.

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Not sure when that is.

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I'm sure that is a long process writing a book, so we'll have to stay posted.

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Uh, nonetheless, she's also a yoga teacher.

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And she works with the body and overall just really wants to help people feel

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better and feel good about their life and their body and, and, you know,

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move and feel good when they move.

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So.

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Uh, definitely right up our alley on this show.

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Uh, in terms of what she is into and what she teaches.

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And in terms of being a yoga teacher, she definitely drops a bit of yoga

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teaching knowledge on this show.

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Uh, there were a few times where we get into certain topics such

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as creative energy in the body.

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And how you can actually use that for things like manifesting, which

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is a very buzzword at the moment.

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Uh, but definitely feel free to tune into that part.

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It's later on in the episode and hear what we have to say about that, but just

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letting you guys know that if there's some terminology you don't quite understand,

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it's probably coming from a yoga background and just stick with it and it

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will be explained throughout the episode.

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And aside from that, yeah, just really excited to talk about all

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things, relationships, which is something I haven't really covered

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on this show yet, but is just such an incredibly important part of.

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Health really.

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I mean, if you do not have healthy relationships and it's very hard

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to feel good in life, and if you're not feeling good in life, then.

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Uh, you, I'm sure your body's taking a toll.

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You're probably stressed and you're holding that and areas of

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your body that you shouldn't be.

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And you're just not living your life to the fullest, which

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is something we don't want.

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We want to have beautiful relationships.

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And on top of that, we've seen that.

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In some of these really massive studies that some of the most important.

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Aspects of our health are our relationships.

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I actually covered in a previous episode that there was a study done

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over the span of like 70 years.

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I want to say where they followed a group of men from different backgrounds.

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And they just watched how their lives played out and, uh, saw, you know,

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how long they lived and what were the different factors that they had

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that helped them to live so long.

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And what it really came down to was not money, not even necessarily the food

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that they were eating, but rather the relationships that they had with people.

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Now, today, we're going to be talking primarily about intimate relationships,

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which is equally as important because that is going to be your best friend

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that you spend most of your time with.

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So, If you are.

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For example, looking to get into a relationship, then this is definitely

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going to be very valuable for you because Ivana shares some information on.

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How to do the self work, to be ready to even get into a relationship, right?

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Because a lot of the times people jump into relationships without ever doing

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the self work without ever first looking within and being comfortable with yourself

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and knowing who you are before then, going out and sharing that with someone else.

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Right.

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We sometimes look for, um, you know, people in almost say, uh, You

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know, a very like hurried way in.

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Like, oh, I'm getting older or, uh, I need to find someone now, you know, It's

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been too long without having a partner.

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Right.

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And it's really important for us to understand that we do need to do some

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self-work and feel whole with ourselves before we share that with someone else.

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So we go really deep into that as well as talking about one of Ivana's

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major tips for if you are single and you want to find that ideal person.

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Uh, out there.

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And eventually make them your partner.

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So it was a really cool thing to hear her say, and I highly agree

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with everything she said on that tip.

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So be sure to tune into that.

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And then, uh, last but not least, we also talk a bit about how to keep

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a relationship going and be, and be healthy in that relationship,

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as well as being able to.

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Uh, manifest your dreams, uh, your dream life and, and, uh, you

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know, using that creative energy into, uh, putting it into reality.

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So.

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Yeah.

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Today's episode was excellent.

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I'm so happy to have had this opportunity to speak with Ivana on this show and, you

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know, bring her on for the first time.

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I'm sure she'll probably come back on in the future.

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And I hope you all really enjoyed this episode and how some really

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big takeaways that you can apply to your life today, because that's

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what this show is all about.

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I am just here to provide all of you with health knowledge and, you know,

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give it to you and let you run with it and do what you will with it.

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But this is kind of a.

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You know, for the inner kid in me, that was going through all of these

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health issues specifically with my gut.

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And, uh, you know, I had no one to really turn to and talk to about what

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are the alternative methods of healing, my gut outside of pharmaceuticals

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and, uh, just being in the hospital.

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Right.

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So, Yeah that's kinda my goal with this show and i hope you all enjoy and

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receive so much benefit out of the show thank you very much and enjoy peace

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going on everybody?

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Welcome back to the Elemental Oven Show.

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Today I have a very amazing guest here with me today.

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Her name is Ivana, a longtime friend of mine.

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Welcome to the show, Ivana.

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Thank you so much.

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It's a such a pleasure to be.

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Now I'm honored to have you on, and I know we have a little time difference here, so

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I'm very appreciative that we were able to line it up and, and get you on the show.

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I'm really excited for our topics today, . Yeah, nice.

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Me too.

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So to, , get you introduced to the show so our listeners have a better

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idea of who you are, let's go ahead and start off with where are you from?

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Uh, I'm French from Paris and I grew in this little town,

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as you know, very boring.

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So I did a career in sports and I've been a personal trainer, a yoga teacher, and

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I was very good and very satisfied with my life in a very professional level.

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And at some point I just was missing.

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Love was missing, missing for years.

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So I start a huge work on myself to dive in the question of what's

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wrong with me and to get this info.

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I also started to travel and I've been moving since 2019, all over the world.

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And I just back in France, few months now and yeah, luckily

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happily settle and married

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Yes.

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So I found the answer of how to, um, actually find the right partner and how

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to make it, uh, a partnership that can really help you grow and that is healthy.

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I love that.

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Love that Ivana.

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And so you already kind of mentioned this, but you're back in France,

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where specifically in France.

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I obviously know cause I visited you guys and I love it.

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But, uh, please share with our, uh, with our listeners.

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Uh, the place is named Ani is close to Geneva on the Switzerland border

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and is with Amazing Lake surrounded by nature with amazing mountains.

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So it's kind of a little town, but at the same time there is this connection

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with the nature that was very, very important for me after spending some

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time in Cogan, in Bali, in Mexico, where you really surrounded by nature.

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So it was not possible just to get back in a city and.

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work normally.

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Yeah, absolutely agree.

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And I love the, uh, little city or town of antsy.

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Uh, it's absolutely gorgeous.

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So, uh, really, really cool.

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Happy you guys moved there.

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It gives me a great reason to go out there.

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Um, and then also, what is a favorite book of yours?

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Oh, uh, one of my really favorite book, it's the, um, four agreements.

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Mm-hmm.

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. It's simple and you can really read it as a fiction.

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And every time you read it, there's some understanding that

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come depending on what you need to understand, what you need to improve.

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And I love because someone.

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10 years old can read it, but someone also of 80 years old and we can all really

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learn in an easy way, lots of thing.

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And it's beautiful, it's simple, it's practical and yeah, it feels right.

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I mean, it's really something that resonates a lot with me and help me

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kind of understand a lot how to act in my life and how to improve myself.

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Yeah, I really like that.

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It's, it, the Four Agreements is one of my favorite books and,

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and one of the favorite books of many guests on this show.

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So, uh, there's a good reason for it.

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It's like you said, it's very simple, it's compact, like, it's not a huge

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read, but it's very, uh, you know, with each word it has a lot of meaning.

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And it's also, like you said, something that kind of adapts

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with you as you go through life.

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So, uh, yeah, really love that book choice.

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Um, thank you for sharing that.

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And then, yeah, what is a favorite quote of yours, Ivana?

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There is this one quote that I really, really like and resonates with me a lot.

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It comes from Ramana Mahara, and it's, uh, it ha he, uh, it's, he's a saint and he

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has been asked how to treat others, and he replied to that There is no others.

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Hmm.

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And it kind of, you know, oh.

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Blows your mind because then you understand what the word union

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that the yoga is seeking for really means that for sure there is no

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separation in between you and other.

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And when you get to that state of consciousness and that state of love

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that you love others, just as you love yourself, because we are all warm, that's

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kind of whew, you got there and yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's a nice reminder when you feel that the outside start to be a little

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overwhelming and that you might get out of your center because you might judge,

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you might be without compassion and just get, um, hurt because it's, yeah, in

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everyday life we can be hurt so easily.

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And when you're.

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remind yourself that yeah, maybe the other person didn't have the

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opportunity to act in a different way.

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And if you can just open your heart instead of closing yourself and

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have this compassion and this love, that will be like the, the greatest

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gift that you can give to the world.

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So, yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's truly, you know, when you do harm to others, it's,

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it's doing harm to yourself.

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And maybe not directly, but uh, that does come around for sure.

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Love that quote.

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And it's a great segue, I think into, uh, you know, a major topic

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that we're going to be covering, which is definitely relationships and

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. , you mentioned a little earlier that, um,

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where you felt successful and satisfied on a level of, you know, like your, your

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achievements and your physical work, but you felt that there was something

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missing and, uh, trying to find this love.

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Uh, now in your.

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Progress of getting to the love, what kind of self work do you feel

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is necessary to open up to finding that partner that is right for you?

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And, and, uh, you know, cuz I think a lot of people are sometimes so, uh, caught

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up with just trying to find someone, you know, oh, I, I, I don't wanna be alone, I

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want to, you know, and, and they're always kind of rushing to find someone to feel

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a gap, whereas I think it's important for us to be very satisfied with ourselves

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and comfortable being alone with ourselves before we kind of open up to someone.

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And I think there's a lot of self-work that goes into it and

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I know you know a lot on that.

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So, um, feel free to dive in anywhere on that and, and share any

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experiences or wisdom that you have.

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Well, you kind of said already the key is really to first fill up your cup and to

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feel good by being by yourselves, because if you expect that someone else fill

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up, , what's missing to distract you then?

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It cannot last for a long time.

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At some point you will see that the person will not, uh, satisfy your

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expectation because actually you didn't even do the work to know yourself,

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what you need to fill up your cup.

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And when we are in this phase of being by yourself, we usually

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struggle and we want as soon as possible to get out of that state.

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Because being single is kind of being sick, you know?

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It's like, oh my God, I need to, uh, find a man to show the

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word that I'm like successful.

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But it, because somehow it is the proof of, um, yeah, doing like others.

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And once you.

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Single, you're kind of a black ship, so it's kind of, okay, what's wrong with me?

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Everybody is in couple.

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Everybody seems like being, you know, having this amazing relationship.

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What's wrong with me?

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So you start asking yourself what's wrong, but you forget to already look

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what's beautiful within you, and you just start doing some therapy, some

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workshop to enhance something, to, uh, add some skills to do more, more and more.

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Instead of just trying to see already what makes you right here and right now.

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Beautiful, because we always wanna do more, but at some point we are not

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even aware of who we are right now.

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And once we start opening up and falling in love with ourself, this

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is the key by exploring, discovering.

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The dark side with this face.

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When you are like sad, when you're angry, when you hate the whole

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word and even yourself included.

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And when you're capable of looking at it and smiling to that because there's

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just a moment in your life that's gonna go up and down and sometimes

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they can't hear and sometimes not.

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But at the same time, there's also this you, this unique you that even if

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your parents have, you know, like you come from the same parents, like from

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like your brother and your sister, but you, you are unique and it's about.

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Finding this treasure that we all carry within and doing the work to

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dive deep inside us to fall in love fully, deeply, authentically for

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this whole human being that is human.

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So we have to accept that we are not perfect.

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It might be boring actually if we will be perfect, but also

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knowing that we are a human, but also we are a God and goddesses.

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So we also deserve something that is wow.

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And we also deserve to love ourself, holy and conditionally, and to get ready.

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Because through ourself we are learning how to act with other,

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to be ready to commit with someone else and to really open a heart.

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Without this fear of being wounded, without a fear of

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being seen for who we are.

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Because actually we wanna be seen, we wanna be heard, we

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wanna be held for who we are.

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But for that, to allow someone to see you a hundred percent how you are,

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you have first to do the work, to see yourself just as you are and to accept it.

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And the acceptance part, it's not easy because we always

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think that we need to improve.

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And this is where I'm like always, Hey guys, when I'm coaching my

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students, I'm like, just see right here, right now, the beauty.

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And maybe things won't ever change.

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, just like dissatisfied with things that life already gave you.

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And through that, just try to understand that there's always

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a reason and that's fine.

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That's fine.

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Acceptance is really a key to find this inner peace, inner balance, and

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then it helps you also move and flow through the life without, you know,

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forcing thing, pushing and trying to fill up your cup from the outside.

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Because actually we already full inside, but it's so hard, you know, to,

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to find a courage, to get inside and to explore because it's a hard work.

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It's really, it takes courage, but at the same time it just like beautiful.

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Like, there's so much beauty, so much growth.

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And it's key because if we don't know ourself and if we are not capable of

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seeing ourself fully, then we won't be also capable of seeing others as they

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are, and we won't be able to accept that other might think differently

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and see the word differently.

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So if we don't really love ourself and see ourself as we

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are, we cannot accept diversity.

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And we kind of tend to think that everybody needs to do the same as

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we do, to think the same as we do.

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So we are in this egoistic, uh, mindset.

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Yeah, no, it's uh, it's very true.

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I think.

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and this is my personal opinion on it, which is that, you know, people

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think that they need someone to complete them when, like you said,

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it's like we're already whole, right?

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Like you don't need someone to complete you.

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And I think when you go out looking for a partner with that mindset of I need

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someone to complete me, to make me whole to cover this and do that, and blah, blah,

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blah, like, I'm lacking in these areas, so I need someone to make up for it.

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And it's like, in my opinion, you are completely fine on your own.

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You should be able to really, at the end of the day, completely

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rely on yourself, right?

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And for emotional, spiritual, all of that, um, uh, you know, health.

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But at the end of the day, we are social creatures.

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And so obviously we, we do want love and we want connection.

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And uh, what I like what you said is just the fact.

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understanding that you are already complete and whole, and being able

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to feel comfortable with being alone.

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Because once you do that and you're vulnerable in the field

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of, of a relationship, you know, you really just show who you are.

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This is, this is, you know, unapologetically like, this

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is me, this is what I enjoy, this is what I'm looking for.

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And very clear with it.

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I think you end up drawing a person who is going to also mirror that in many ways.

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And naturally you'll kind of fit together.

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You know, instead of trying to force this, like, oh, I really need something.

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I need someone, I need, uh, someone to help me in this way.

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Or that instead of just being like, Hey, like I'm good on my own.

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I don't, you know, you know, and it also almost takes a desperation out of it.

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Like, you're not, I don't need someone, but I would love for someone to be with

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me and kind of, you know, Complete me as in, in a relationship, you know, but like,

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at the end of the day, like understanding that you both are two individual whole

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beings and, and you know, you, you, you have everything you need within.

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But finding someone to compliment that I think is really beautiful and is

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something that's really great to find.

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And I know that in my own relationship and I'm, I, you know, I'm gonna say,

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I'm sure probably in yours as well, you know, there was like a high level of

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vulnerability with Ashley from day one.

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I, uh, was very honest in, you know, certain tastes of music or this or

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that, where, and I mean, this is back in high school when it really mattered.

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Like you had a sound really cool by, you know, what music you to or whatever,

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you know, and, and so, uh, it was really cool to see, uh, we were very genuine

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and honest with each other from day one.

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And I think that played a huge role in our ability to last as long as we have,

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you know, and, and really have something to, you know, it's, it's, we weren't

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looking for each other to complete us.

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We just.

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Naturally found each other.

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And so I fully agree with what you say.

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And at the same time, I used to think like this for a long, long time, but

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I'd like to have a little nuance.

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Mm-hmm.

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, because I also saw through experience that we have kind of two different

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paths because different personalities.

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For me, my own example has been, I've been single for about four, five

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years, which is a long, long time.

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I had money, I was pretty in shape.

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Um, I could go wherever I want, meet people, and I was meeting people, but

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they were not the right one, and they will just go away and ghost me and stuff.

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So I had to go through all that and this.

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kind of forces me to dive within to understand this famous question of

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what's wrong with me, and to understand that actually nothing is wrong.

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It's just like my criteria was not high enough that I didn't trust

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myself, that I was this goddess.

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So I was just thirsty and I will just accept anything because it's like being

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in a Des Desert and you're just thirsty and like there's Zi somewhere and you just

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take to drink something, whatever it is, even if it's Coca-Cola and you don't want

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it, but you just take it because you feel like it's gonna help you and that's fine.

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This is kind of the profile of.

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30, 40 years old, strong, independent woman that grow in

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the city when we kind of tough.

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But there's also a different profile where maybe the person need to be in

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a relationship to have this mirror that is kind of pointing to help grow

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and find what you like, what you don't like, and kind of find your personality.

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So it's two different paths.

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Like the one that's you kind of by yourself because you are

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by yourself, go deep within.

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And the other one it's, yeah, more in a sharing because you need this, um, this

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other person to help you become yourself.

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And that's fine too.

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But yeah, we, everything is okay.

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We just need to be aware of.

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What are my needs and how can I fulfill it and go look for it?

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And this is actually the key.

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Okay, gotcha.

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So kind of understanding your, your kind of Yeah.

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Like understanding like what it is that you're in need of.

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And you're, so you, you, you believe that it is more like you can find

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certain aspects like in a person that can kind of like complete,

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complete you in a certain way.

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Like would you, is that kind of like, uh, you agree with or

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is that like you're saying like that's one separate path of it?

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Kind of.

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I'll say that some people are very lost because they're don't know how to do.

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I'm reading actually a very interesting book about women in the 19th and

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20th century and the art of falling in love to choose your husband,

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your wives is something very new.

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Actually it's the last century.

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Woman who will just choose a man.

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Actually it's a family who used to choose a man for herself, but it was for some,

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you know, like, um, yeah, wealth reasons.

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So the art of really choosing the right partner that matches

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who you are, uh, it's new.

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So we are in a learning process and I think this is where like some

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compassion for ourself or all the mistakes that we do is needed because

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we are slowly, slowly discovering.

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Our generation is already doing a huge gap.

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If we compare to a parents, a parents kind of, after two weeks

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we're getting married and like we'll get stuck all the life together.

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And then they, they say, okay, we can get divorced.

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So everybody divorced and stuff, and now we're in a different way.

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But there is like different paths too.

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And I think that someone who is not curious, you know, Someone who

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don't have this, um, within the, the confidence to, to go out by itself.

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Someone who is very shy and really, uh, you know, this flower who is

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not open at all, who just wait to be open but need someone for that.

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I think this is that the kind of person that needs to be in a relationship, even

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if it's not a perfect relationship, but just to have less fear, to have this

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intuition that, that there is something.

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Because if not, it could not goes anywhere or it will take ages.

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Mm-hmm.

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. So I guess, uh, a question that's kind of coming up to me that I think would be

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valuable information for the listeners too would be for people who are.

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, you know, maybe they've been single for a few years now and they are

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looking for a partnership and, and they want to find that love.

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Right.

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Uh, and, and that ideal person, like that beautiful relationship, what would

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be the kind of, uh, advice that you would give to someone who is in that

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stage and they're not really sure, you know, what is this self-work to do?

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Mm-hmm.

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, or what should I be doing or looking for, uh, to attract

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that person or meet that person?

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Mm-hmm.

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, one very simple exercise that is also funny is the wishlist.

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Take a pen and paper and write as precise as you can.

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All the criteria you wanna have in a man or a woman.

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Depend on what you look for and really be precise, like, , I don't know,

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physical aspect, the personality, the values, and go in detail.

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But knowing also that it's wishlist, uh, needs, you need to find a

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way to make it in a positive way.

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Mm-hmm.

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Since you're kind of addressing your wish to the universe, the universe

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doesn't really, uh, understand the No.

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So if you say, I don't want someone who takes drugs, then you put

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the word drugs on your wishlist.

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And let's say that your uni universe that is very, very far away and

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needs to hear a lot of us asking for lots of thing, couldn't hear

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the no and just heard the drug.

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So you say, okay, you want someone who has drugs.

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Okay, I'll give you this to experience.

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And then you're like, I don't understand.

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There's always someone coming in my life that takes some substances, but

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I'm trying to get rid of this pattern.

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I don't understand why.

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And then you kind of, okay, how can I.

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by the way, to write.

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I don't want someone who takes drugs, but to make it without using the word drugs.

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And then you're like, that's really where our authenticity and where like my way

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of, of expressing myself is very personal.

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So for me, I will use maybe someone who take care of himself from

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inside and out and someone who is very cautious about the substances,

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his, um, his consuming and stuff.

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Finding a way, finding different roads to kind of get where

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you want, but on your own way.

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And this is the interesting part.

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And at the same time, the kind of okay, how to, and I think

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it's very, very important.

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Um, before I met, uh, Sandy, I wrote about three pages.

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Uh, without knowing him, I was like very precise.

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And that was a friend who told me, okay.

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, what will be your ideal guy?

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And I will say like, Hmm, I don't know.

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And he was like, tell five of um, yeah.

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Criteria that will, you know, be the person.

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I was like, I don't know.

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I have it in my mind somewhere.

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But he was like, no, tell me.

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And I was like, I don't know.

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And then he went out of a joke, I start writing and I was like, okay.

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And then I get very precise.

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Very precise.

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And after, yeah, one.

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I've been with him.

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I finally find this notebook and we read it together and I was like,

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Hey, this is the list I wrote even before meeting you and knowing you.

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And it matches everything, but really everything in detail.

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I said like, I want someone with very good quality hair is got the most amazing

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hair ever, ever, ever in on earth.

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I mean, it is, this detail for me are important, but for

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someone else, maybe it's not.

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But this is, you know, like what, uh, what is my ideal?

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And you know, knowing that if it comes one day, so that's good.

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And if it doesn't come, that's fine to also detaching from

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that because it's the intention.

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This is what you want deeply from the depth of your being with this

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longing, this fire of the heart.

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This is what you know will make you feel happy.

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. And then you also need to have the trust that the universe

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is willing to make you happy.

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Because if you just write these wish lists, like, you know, um, like the

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tudo list or like your bullets, um, bullet point list without putting it

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the fire in here, in there, knowing that the universe can offer you whatever

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you want, if you really ask for it.

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And if that's gonna make you happy, why not?

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You know, the universe is not here to just make you life complicated.

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It is just that we've been set.

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. You don't need to be needy to get someone.

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So we forget about asking, about speaking it out loud.

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We forget about saying it out loud.

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I wanna be in a healthy partnership.

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And this is something that is also important.

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You wanna be in a healthy partnership.

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Say it.

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Mm-hmm.

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say it.

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But not only I wanna be in a healthy partnership, but sing it.

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I wanna be in a healthy partnership because the vibration we're carrying,

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why we say this thing, why we write the wishlist are very, very important.

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When we sing in the car a song, we're kind of fully in there, almost like a

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prayer, you know, you say devotional.

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, why not to create your own little song by saying two or three words of what

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you want and just make it out there.

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Maybe someone hear it and it happens, maybe not, and that's fine too.

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It's still a nice, uh, song that you can carry with you and,

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yeah, no, I I The joy, yeah.

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Bring the joy and the, the feeling already in what you're doing, and

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please ask for it because if it comes from the right place, you know, with

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not this egoistic, I wanna be in a partnership because I feel alone and

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I wanna just someone to distract me.

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But it comes really from this longing of the union.

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Actually, I'm a yoga teacher.

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Always love to say that the union that we all seek through the performance of

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the yoga is actually not only like being super flexible and blah, blah, blah.

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It's.

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Beautifying ourself for someone else to co-create something and

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to share who we are, to share and to be seen, to be heard and all

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this, all these beautiful feelings.

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Yeah.

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I get emotional when I speak about love . It's good that you do, you're

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doing it right then, you know, and I think there's, uh, there's a few points I

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wanted to touch on in what you said there that were, were really important for.

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One is definitely, uh, the, you.

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in terms of, I, I would relate this back to giving gratitude.

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Um, so when you wake up in the morning, one of the practices I like

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to do is I, I do a little gratitude, at least, you know, three things

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minimum, what I'm grateful for.

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Uh, but the most important thing is when you give the gratitude is not to

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just list off the things that you're grateful for, but rather to really feel

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a sense of gratitude for those things.

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So if it's the house, you know, that is over, you know, the roof over your head.

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It's not just, oh, thank you for this house.

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. Wow.

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Thank you for this place that has, you know, cared for me and kept

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me out of the terrible weather.

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And, you know, and really feeling that sense of gratitude for it.

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Uh, and then, so I think that is very important when you are

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writing something down to also really embody a, a feeling with it.

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Right?

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And, and understand that those are just going to kind of be words on paper until

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you really put that emotion with it.

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Right.

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So, I love that you said that.

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I also love that you said to not put down the things that you don't want.

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Even if you're saying, I don't want this, regardless, you're still putting it down.

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And I, I can't remember if it was a quote from Mother Teresa, I believe,

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but she said she would something like she would never attend a,

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uh, a, a march that was anti-war.

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And you're like, well, that's weird, right?

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Because it's anti-war.

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But she said she would attend a peace march.

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, right?

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And so something that is, it's not, you know, you're not like still

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saying, talking about war, she's talking about the complete opposite.

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It's just peace, right?

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She would, she would attend something that would be in a movement for peace and like,

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you know, reconciliation and all of that.

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So I think those are very important.

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And also just the point of writing something down is so incredibly powerful.

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I think that many people have that experience where they actually physically

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write something down and see it, and you know, as they're writing it down,

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they're fully embodied in what they're wanting and really putting it into.

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Yeah.

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Into action, right?

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And so, uh, I think even Jim Carey wrote down a check for himself and like, put

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it in his wallet and said like, it's like a million dollars or whatever, you know?

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And he's like, this is how much, like I'm gonna make one of these days from acting.

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And sure enough, he ended up making exactly that amount that

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he wrote down on the check.

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So, lot of truth in that.

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And I love that you shared that.

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I think that's a great practice.

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And I would love to now move a little bit into being in a relationship and

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finding how to make the relationship continue in a healthy way.

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So, for example, uh, you know, what are some of your key tips

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to longevity in a relationship?

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Um, you know, whether whe it's fights or, you know, on how to overcome those

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or if it's, you know, just anything.

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Right.

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Um, what, what, what have been your keys to success?

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Well, the key.

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The most simple always work is communication.

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Clear communication is really the key, and this is where you cannot communicate

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clearly what are your needs and what hurt you if you didn't do previously.

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The work to know yourself and this self-awareness that you can have through

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the practice to know yourself and to know when you are getting emotional and when

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you are not centered, when you are maybe acting or speaking from, you know, this

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anger or from this, you know, emotions that is not huge, just you feel that

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way and then maybe you cannot control yourself and you're just like, give it

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on someone else instead of just like kind of being responsible of how you feel.

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So I think that, yeah, communicating clearly.

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Um, In a safe container, knowing that you can say how you feel, that it

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won't be used in a bad way against you.

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That this, it's safe to be vulnerable and to be just as you are.

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Because again, we always wanna show this, um, when we are like shining

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when everything is good, but they're ups and down in life and that's fine.

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Again, we're a human being and that's part of a process.

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So it is just the more authentic you can be, uh, and asking when it's time for you

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to say, Hey, I need my space because this is another very famous code that I love.

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It's like being in a relationship is being the guardian of the solitude of other.

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and it's kind of really stayed with me when I heard it the first time,

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which, you know, we did the previous work to kind of fill up our cup and

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be good by being single and being with yourself, then you find this partner

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with who you wanna dive a little deeper, but don't melt with the other.

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It's not about forgetting and losing yourself and not answering anymore to your

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own needs to kind of satisfy the other.

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And this is kind of what's usually we tend to do.

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It's because it's so comfortable and pleasant to spend a lot of time with

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the other and to kind of shift our own habits to spend more time with the other.

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And we forget to take the time to again, do the.

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That we need to do in my case, is to do sports, uh, like to go exercise,

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uh, to read, to sing, to like play the drums, , and do all this.

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That makes me feel happy.

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And when I'm happy, then I can also share this happiness.

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And if I am in not a good place, also to just not be afraid that

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the person cannot ho um, ha um, that the person cannot accept it.

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It's just like, Hey, I am n I mean I'm on my moon.

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Don't touch me.

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My body sensitive.

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So it's not, uh, pleasant for me to get more intimate.

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Please, can we just, um, cuddle or not and just being fully.

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Yeah, cautious about how you feel and respecting yourself.

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I think this is the key.

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Respecting yourself to again and again, come back to yourself first.

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And this is not being selfish because sometimes we wanna, don't wanna be

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selfish, we wanna love others, we wanna help others, and we forget

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about like filling up our own cup.

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So I think that to make it last forever, or you know, in a long term, in a

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partnership, is you are the one that is in charge of this body, on this vehicle,

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of this health, of this whole thing.

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And you cannot rely on anyone else to make it function.

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, uh, you know, and be efficient.

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So you have to do the work to keep on, you know, feeding,

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nurturing yourself to feel good.

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And also now you have someone that is here to help you when you also need

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some rest and when you don't feel good.

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So it is just, again, like without being self-centered, but nurturing yourself.

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And by nurturing yourself, you also be able to give much more

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and to be with open hearts.

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So I think that kind of whatever you do, even when you say no

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to something, that's fine.

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Like saying no, it's a proof of respect.

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And if I cannot tell you no, because I'm afraid how you're

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gonna react, then I'm not.

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Uh, Yeah, I'm not respecting myself.

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I'm kind of betraying myself.

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And then at some point I will not feel good in my shoes.

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And somehow because I don't feel good in my shoe that at some point for

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nothing, I will tell you did that to me.

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You did that for me.

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And that was actually my own responsibility to feel good in my shoes.

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And if I don't feel good to say, Hey, I am not alone anymore.

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We are in a partnership, so please help me.

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I need some help.

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And this is where also not being ashamed of saying, Hey,

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I'm in a vulnerable space now.

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I need either to be in my cave, as usually what men likes to do, kind of to isolate

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themselves or to say like, Hey, please woman, we are like, I need your attention.

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Please come.

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And just what?

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What do I need to do?

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Nothing.

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Just be present.

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I need you present.

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And sometimes sharing this precious moment, it's also a key just.

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No phone, no distraction.

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Just taking the time to be present with each other, asking

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clearly, like, how can I improve?

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Do you need anything?

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Um, yeah, like.

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asking question because you're not afraid that what you hear might kind of hurt you.

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Like, oh my God, yeah, you didn't like what I did yesterday.

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What?

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I said, oh, you don't wanna hear it.

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You're ready to hear it.

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Because that's fine.

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We all do mistake, make mistakes.

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So yeah, I think it's this.

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And you know, cultivating the quality time together is also something very

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important, very important to mm-hmm.

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keep on, like doing acro yoga together to laugh a lot, to read

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books, to comment about it, to do activities together that's gonna

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really make the fire still very alive.

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And a nice sexual life is also important, I think, to make everybody satisfied.

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And again, in a relat.

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It's about just communicating clearly because we might find an imbalance, but

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it's just usually because we don't dare to communicate how we feel and what are

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our needs because it's just a stereotype and a cliche that ma mens are more needy

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and the woman not, and all this thing.

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It's really like very personal and just need to be said.

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Yeah, it's, I, I do believe a major role comes down to communication and

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uh, you know, really actually most of it comes down to communication.

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Right.

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And being able, like you said, to.

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Say, to communicate with your partner, but without holding back Right.

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In a way that's very honest to yourself and, you know, uh, and, and being

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mature enough both partners to respect, uh, the other person's needs, right?

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So, um, if someone does say, I need space, or, you know, th when I'm like,

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this, this is what I need, you know?

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Mm-hmm.

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, and I think it's, uh, something, you know, that needs to be communicated.

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We need to be able to be honest with ourselves and communicate honestly,

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and also to be understanding of what the other person might need

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in that moment, even if that's not what you want at that exact time.

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, you know, we have to compromise and, and understanding that, you

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know, hey, um, maybe you need your space right now and that's fine, but

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your partner does need affection.

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So take your time.

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Take your space, but understand that at some point you will need to, you

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know, give, give back, reciprocate, you know, and, and I think it's

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this, Very like, yeah, just really understanding and being very mature to

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communicate and to respect each other.

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And I think it's, um, you know, it's something that I think we

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will continue to always work on.

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You know, no one's ever perfect, like, um, you know, in no way am I saying that I'm a

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hundred percent oh, the best communicator.

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Like, no by o by no means.

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Right.

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Um, but I think it is very important to say then, and I, I, in my experience,

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I believe the communication is absolutely key and plays a huge role.

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Um, and yeah.

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So I also wanted to dive a little bit more into you.

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You talked a little bit about obviously, uh, having a good, uh, sexual relationship

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with your partner is absolutely key.

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And I know we had talked a little bit about, you know, um, sexual

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energy and creative energy and kind of channeling that into.

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What you're doing in life, you know, and, and how can you actually,

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you know, there's this, a lot of people talking about manifesting

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right now, which is amazing.

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I love it.

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I'm all about it.

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Um, you know, absolutely believe that, you know, there we create

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everything from a mental space, right?

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And energetic space, and then we bring it into the physical world, right?

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And so, uh, I'm really a believer that it does all start here and then

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we bring it into the physical realm.

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And so I would love to hear, uh, you explain a little bit about how

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you have manifested certain things and you know, the process, because

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I think there's a lot of gray area.

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So, uh, please explain anything on that.

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Well, uh, the sexual energy is what gives life.

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So it's kind of the most powerful energy we have within.

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And the beautiful thing to understand is that even if women have this, uh,

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capacity to give birth physically to a baby, men also have this energy

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of creating because we all have this masculine and feminine energy within us.

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So it's just about first acknowledging that and playing with it.

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The masculine energy is more about action, is more about moving forward,

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and, uh, feminine energy is more this receptivity and this unconditional love.

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So it's learning about how to.

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Connect them.

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I love like having this, uh, connection with the left and the right hand on

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the heart center as a little reminder that every time we do the action,

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so we move, uh, it comes from the place of the heart and we try, you

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know, to find a balance in the heart and this creative force that usually

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might be spelled in the love making.

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Um, what in a different way.

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Like when we make love, we kind of create some energetic flow.

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And the question, once you know you're passionate, you are doing this lovemaking.

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And when you're really fully there, like in tantra, uh, the lovemaking is a way

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to the path for self realization because this state of love making, when it's done

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without the mind, you are fully yourself.

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You're fully present.

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So you can actually get these blis states when you can reach somebody.

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I didn't say I get to that point, but , it's the theory.

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So if we, based on that, we can slowly, slowly build the awareness

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that there is an exchange.

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There's an exchange when you kiss, uh, your partner through the PR

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or through the hair that is going through, through your body to his body.

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So there's an exchange when there's also the yi or the, uh, feminine, uh, sexual

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organ and the lingham then come together.

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It's also a new way to communicate and also a way to,

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without words, create something.

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And this connection of the yune of the Lincoln have the capacity to give birth.

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But they also, if you don't wanna give birth, have the capacity to be

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transformative to sublimated, to kind.

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Be aware that the energy are, are flying around in the bedroom.

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Wherever you make love, it's here, it's present, it's flowing all around you.

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So it's kind of taking the time to say, okay, now that we are creating

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through from a space of love, this energy that is here in the room

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present, what do we do with this energy?

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How can we maybe redirect it for a higher purpose?

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And this is where like you can say, okay, I wanna create my life.

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I wanna, you know, become the master of my life, the one who

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is really manifesting my desires.

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But for that, you also need to ask yourself what are your desires

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and what you wanna manifest?

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So it's about okay, taking maybe the time after.

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Sweet.

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Love making to say.

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Okay.

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I'd love this for me in my life to happen because I want this outcome and this

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is what the direction I wanna go take.

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And kind of again, knowing that you are in this higher state with this

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energy floating around and that you are in the pure state of love and

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that this energy can really be used in, in a way to help you become the

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person you wanna be and sometime to become the person you wanna be.

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You need a car because, for example, me, if I wanna be on time to give

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my yoga class, I need a way to get.

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So it's not selfish about saying, Hey, yeah, I need a car.

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It's okay.

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I need a car.

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Not because I wanna show everybody how rich I am with this woohoo,

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astonishing car and stuff.

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It's just like, yeah, I need this car because that will save me some time to be

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on time and even in advance for my class and be super open and super present to

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give my yoga class and to my students.

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So it's really like, I need that because of this.

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So again, the intention and it's how to use it, and I'm kind of, uh, in my

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personal way because trying to make it more concrete, because again, I

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watch so many things about the love of attraction, the love of manifestation,

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and we all, we all understand what does it mean, like from this space.

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But what I am trying to do is to feel it from this space.

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So for me, everything really start from the heart.

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And this is where I'm starting, okay.

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I have this life force, I have this capacity to create and now I give myself

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the challenge to write a book and I'm like, I'm gonna try manifest this book

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in the concrete to really give birth to my first baby with this energy

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that are sublimated, that are here.

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And that, you know, it's gonna kind of be a proof that is there.

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And I'm trying to write this book not from a pushy place of like on YouTube

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you can find how to write as fast as you can and you know, to be super efficient.

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It, it's a way to do that and that's fine, but I'm more trying to be in this

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receptive energy that's kind of, uh, you know, just channeling and making

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you empty to give some space to this.

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Energy, however you wanna call it, this universe to just go through

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you and communicate through you.

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And actually, yeah, you just become a vessel to create something.

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And yeah, this is the little game I'm like, uh, doing this year and I'm really

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curious and excited to see, um, in the concrete how it's gonna manifest.

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And I really would love that we all understand men and women

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that we are creating our lives.

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So it might be the intention to write a book, but it can be more subtle, more

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simple, of just like, Hey, I wanna be happy in my life and just find this

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energy that can move us, you know, and to use it to get one step closer

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to this perfect life that we desire.

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Yeah.

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The manifestation process is definitely, uh, you know,

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it's, it's very, interesting.

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And, and can be unique for each person, but, uh, I, I definitely agree.

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Um, you know, through yoga teachings, they do talk about how this

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energy is very creative, right?

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We, like you said, we all have this ability to create, right.

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Uh, from a sexual standpoint and obviously a physical, mental standpoint.

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Uh, and so being able, you know, from the yogic standpoint, they talk about,

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yeah, cultivating that sexual energy because it is a very creative force.

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It creates life.

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And so bringing that into a place where instead of creating life,

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maybe you're creating something more in the physical realm.

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And so, uh, it's really cool because I know both you and Sandy have been

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manifesting and, and doing this process and, uh, you know, really seeing the, the

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fruits and the rewards of your, of your practice, which is really cool to see.

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And, and I urge anyone who is interested in manifestation to look more into this,

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you know, dive deeper into the yogic, uh, terminology and understanding of it.

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Or obviously reach out to Iana as well.

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She, I'm sure would be happy to talk about that because it's

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a very, it's a great topic.

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I, I love manifestation and it is a, it's a practice I do

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every day with my meditation.

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So, uh, so happy to hear you talk about that.

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And, uh, I know we are coming towards the end of our episode here, but I would

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love to, uh, you know, have you share any other information you wanna talk

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about, uh, whether it's your book and what that's about, um, you know, to share

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where people can reach out to you and connect and, you know, follow you and

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subscribe and just be in touch with you, uh, because obviously you have so much

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knowledge to share and I know people are gonna want to be able to connect with you.

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So please take the floor.

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Um, anything you want to talk about last minute touchpoints you want

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to hit on, or just ways to find you would be much appreciated.

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Iana, thank you so much for this.

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Space.

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Uh, I'm actually building up slowly, slowly my YouTube channel

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to create a community because I've been traveling a lot trying

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to kind of fit in the community.

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And then I kind of realized that we all have, again, the capacity

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to create our own community.

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And we have this network that is international.

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You're in the States now, I'm in France, and we can still find

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a way to connect and exchange.

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So I think that, yeah, kind of finding a way to co-create and to inspire

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each other, inspire each other.

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It's very, very important because again, we have all this life force within us, and

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maybe every time we feel aroused, maybe every time we make love, we can just as

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a, you know, in the background somewhere, remind ourself that this energy.

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Is the energy that can give birth to a project, to our desires, to

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our dreams in this world, because it has this strength, this capacity.

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And to really ask ourself what is the ideal world we wanna live in?

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Because we are definitely responsible of the way the world is right now.

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And if not, and we'll kind of feel like, ah, it, it, it's overwhelming.

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I cannot do, it's not true.

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Let's take the time to breathe in, breathe out slowly, and to kind

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of start creating our own future.

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What is, as a collective, this consciousness, where we wanna put it, what

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we wanna do with all this manifestation?

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Do I.

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Keep this manifestation energy for myself again, or I wanna give it back for a

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higher purpose to kind of create again.

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Beautiful world.

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And my book is actually a very interesting work because I could

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decide to just do, uh, uh, you know, this, um, self-help book.

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And I decided to take just the risk to create a fiction because I'm

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putting out there a whole work about what will the ideal world look like

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and I'm kind of designing it and shaping it through my own perspective.

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And that's me how I can imagine and see it.

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And I'm saying that mainly who knows, I'm this inhumane desire manifestor.

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And someday it gets to the point because yeah, it's how can we help

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this world become more like we want it to be and really understanding

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that we have this capacity to create and that things are changing.

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constantly and that we are part of the change.

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So it's now time and not tomorrow, but now to just take life as this playground.

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Very playful.

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When we can experience, when we can have some fun and just accept

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sometime to make some mistakes sometime to, uh, just, you know, lose

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herself and just, you know, from this hard space of like, yeah, of love.

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If every action is really put out there from a space of love, it's gonna be okay.

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It's really gonna be good.

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So this is my invitation.

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I'm just, Following a love with life.

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. That's the best way to do it though.

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Uh, yeah.

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I can't wait to read your book when it comes out, and I will be probably one

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of the first people on it, , I'm sure.

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Mm-hmm.

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, uh, being that we're in touch, but I really love that, Yvonne, and, and thank

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you for sharing all of your knowledge and wisdom on, on this platform here.

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Uh, so grateful to have you on.

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And in terms of, uh, your YouTube channel, your Instagram, uh, all

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the places people can reach you, I, I will put those in the show notes,

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but feel free to also Thank you.

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Uh, just mention it here, um, at where, what, what's your handle on Instagram

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and, and all the other, uh, you can find me on Instagram inspired by Ivana

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Baji, so my name and last name, yeah.

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And on YouTube, Ivana Baji.

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You'll find me too.

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And.

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Perfect.

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Thank you again for having me.

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And yeah, thank you for the work you're doing and gathering all this beautiful

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soul around you to inspire people.

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It's, it's beautiful.

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Thank you for that.

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Uh, thank you, Yvonne.

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No, I, I appreciate it greatly and, and I'm so happy to have this platform

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to have people like you on here.

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So it really makes me super happy.

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And, uh, for those of you who have enjoyed this conversation,

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please reach out to Ivana.

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She is a great person, super lovely to talk to.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, has ton of wisdom and knowledge.

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Uh, if any of these topics intrigue you, please reach out to her and, uh, yeah.

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And if you're ever in antsy, which is a beautiful place, then

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I'm sure, uh, you can find Ivana.

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Yeah, go meet up and, and enjoy a yoga class, or have a great

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conversation, or do some breath work.

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Uh, whatever it is, it'll, it'll be a great time.

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And, uh, thank you so much for coming on this show, Ivana.

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Thank you.

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All right, everyone.

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You guys know the, uh, motto of the show.

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It is, do everything with good intentions and connect to your elements.

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Thank you very much, Yvon.

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Thank you.

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Elemental Evan
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The Elemental Evan Show, takes an easy and fun approach to health and wellness, making in-depth health topics easy to digest. Focusing on health from an integrative perspective, this show incorporates all areas of health from diets, to relationships, to healthy mentalities. Certified Universal Yoga practitioner and IIN Health Coach, Evan combines holistic health practices with scientific data to bring you fun and interesting episodes. You'll finish each episode feeling empowered to make changes in your life that can both add years to your life and life to your years. Follow along as we cover every health topic you can think of as Evan shows just how connected everything is, both inside your body and in your external environment.

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Evan Roberts

Welcome to the Elemental Evan show. My name is Evan Roberts and I'm a certified IIN Health Coach and Yoga Teacher. I love taking a whole approach to health as everything is connected. When you treat one issue in the body, you'll inevitably treat other issues in the body which is why I try to look at things from a big picture perspective. Through this show I'll be bringing you information packed episodes on tangible ways to improve your overall health and wellness. I hope you walk away from each episode feeling empowered and renewed to take on the day and take control of your health!

Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and grow with me.

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