Episode 120

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22nd Mar 2023

120. Supplements, Mushrooms, and Healthy Living Simplified with Caleb Wood

Supplements, Mushrooms, and Healthy Living Simplified with Caleb Wood


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In this Week's Wellness Wednesday episode Evan invites you to sit down for a conversation between him and Caleb Wood who is a Health Coach focused on holistic practices combined with trusted and true methods to help you not only achieve the body you want but to also create health in your life that's sustainable. On this week's episode they have an open conversation on:

  • What an average day in the life of a health focused entrepreneur looks like.
  • What supplements are our favorites.
  • What a healthy meal looks like.
  • Why less is more and how simplicity can be a massive benefit to your life.
  • How Caleb put on 20 pounds of muscle, and his top recommendations to living a healthy life.

This episode is jam packed with health information and allows for you to see what a conversation between two health coaches looks like. Enjoy connecting with Caleb and I and as always, do everything with good intentions and connect to your elements.


Disclaimer:

This podcast is for educational purposes only, it is not a substitute for professional care by a doctor or other qualified medical professional. Evan Roberts is not a medical professional and this podcast is provided on the understanding that it does not constitute medical or other professional advice or services. Statements and views expressed on this show are not medical advice, this podcast, including Evan Roberts and any guests on the show, disclaims responsibility for any possible adverse effects from the use of information contained in this episode. If you think you have a medical problem please consult a medical professional.

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man.

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It's nice to be here.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, Had you on the show two other times now, right?

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I think so.

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Yeah.

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Good other times.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Most primal person I've had on the show.

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It's how we do it, man.

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And, uh, I've already asked you all the fire, rapid fire questions,

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probably a million times now.

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But, uh, any books that you've read lately that you you're taking a massive mentality

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shift from or anything like that?

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Yeah.

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Um, Space on his name.

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Non-negotiable by Wes Watson.

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Okay.

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So Wes Watson spent 10 years incarcerated in California jail.

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And, um, it's cool.

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He kind of ties it back into like the stoic philosophies.

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He read a lot, read a lot of.

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Um, books like, uh, on manifestation and stuff while it

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was in while he was incarcerated.

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And he liked developed his whole training program and business program while in.

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Wow.

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Yeah, so it's pretty cool.

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Um, and one thing that he talks about in there was using regret

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as like your, as like a good tool to get better in life, right?

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Like.

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If you're going to regret something, that's a really good guidance to not do

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that thing, but you might regret, right?

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Yeah.

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And then same thing, looking back at your life.

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If you regret something, it's a good thing.

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Not to re repeat in your life either.

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So I really liked that concept.

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Um, yeah, so that, and then just, just the discipline and focus it

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takes, I mean, being incarcerated, not to get involved with.

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Crazy shit going on in jail prison.

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Um, being locked in the shoe for, I think there was one time he would,

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they were on lockdown for like a one and a half years almost in the shoe.

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Like Matt, maximum security.

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Ver one hour, a yard time a day, like.

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Yeah.

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And he was able to stick to a program.

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You know what I mean and continue getting better.

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So just that discipline and focus.

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Was huge and super inspiring, obviously.

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So yeah, it's a good book.

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Good read.

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Cool.

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Um, non-negotiable west Watson.

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Yeah.

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Shout out.

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I like that.

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It's a.

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Reminds me of like this quote by.

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Um, I already forgot some, one of the Hindu like gurus and he talked

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about like how pain is a good thing.

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Yeah.

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And he says pain is the way your body knows not to do

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something harmful to itself.

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Yeah.

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You.

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You know, and if you apply that to life, like why would you do

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something that's going to hurt you?

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Right.

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Like, and so unfortunately we don't have that sense when we're

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doing stuff that isn't literally physically causing harm to our body.

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But yeah, I always think of that.

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I'm like, yeah.

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Is this going to, this is going to harm you or do good

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to, you know, it's trying to.

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Yeah.

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But, uh, yeah.

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And then also just like talking on discipline as well.

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I think you're super disciplined.

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We've been talking a lot about this, but, uh, I also thought it was so interesting

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and I want to like, Personally, sit down and just like, think out this thought

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more, but I've really been thinking about how life is kind of like very paradoxical,

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like kind of just conundrum and like how I think we were saying like, as a.

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As a business owner.

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A lot of people all like really have this.

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Like idea of like going into business for themselves because the freedom.

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Yeah.

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Freedom of time, freedom and take off whatever you want.

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Like no one telling you what to do.

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You set the rules and then you become the business owner and you realize,

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yes, you technically have that.

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Right.

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And you can do it, but.

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You really shouldn't.

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You know, like if you want to be successful, then you

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better not be waking up late.

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You better not be taking off.

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Honestly.

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Like you could take days off when you need it for your mental health

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and all that, but like, you better be getting after it, you know?

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. Um, yeah, but how actually, how are you liking this bomb?

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Yup.

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Yup.

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Yup.

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A little shout out to Organifi.

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For those of you who don't know definitely one of the biggest

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partners of the show and, uh, yeah, we're drinking their Chagas.

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Kai called hard kill tastes.

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Good.

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Yeah.

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Feeling a little.

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Yeah.

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Little a.

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Rhythms starting to rise a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Heart rate.

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A little bit, I'm pretty sensitive to, yeah.

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I feel it feels good.

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Yeah.

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No, that's good.

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I'm a, um, I'm kind of the opposite.

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I really have to pay attention.

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Um, to notice something going on, but it's good though.

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Tastes good too.

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Yeah.

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Uh, so anyways, Caleb, let's, uh, I want to hear something I want to hear.

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What.

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Uh, day in your life.

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It looks like from.

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Health and nutrition to work out to mental health, to family time, to like, how

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do you, how do you divvy up your time?

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You're a, you're a high functioning person.

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So like, what does it look like?

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You know, Yeah, man.

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Um, well,

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It took a while to like, build a good rhythm to where I don't burn out.

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You know what I mean?

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Cause like you said earlier as building a business as an

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entrepreneur, you have freedom, right.

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And that's freedom to do nothing.

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Right.

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Right.

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And make no income and make no impact or that's total freedom

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for the opposite as well.

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And so it goes hand in hand, just like the amount.

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Of work.

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You know this, you listen to it all.

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Um, Tony Robbins, any successful business people, right?

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Like there's always like a grind phase.

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There's always a phase where you, you, you have to put in the work, right.

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Luck favors the hardworking.

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Yeah.

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And so this past year, like literally moving up to Washington with family,

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living in an RV, owning that process and like literally becoming militant

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about my time has completely changed.

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My habits changed.

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My income changed my impact, everything.

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Right.

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Wow.

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And it's just that going back to that discipline and doing it from a place

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of what do I really want to create?

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What am I really trying to create here?

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Am I trying to change lives?

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Yes.

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Like let that be the guidance.

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Let that be that.

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Inner voice, right?

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It's like continue to be like, okay, abundance, trying to help

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people abundance on all levels.

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You know what I mean?

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I'm kind of rambling a little bit, but no, you're good.

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From, I guess from day to day, this past year, you know, living in an RV and having

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one, everything just simplified, right?

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Like diet simplified.

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Uh, things right.

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I literally, everything is in storage right now and I just have minimal

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things, minimal equipment around me.

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Um, that's been huge because that's allowed.

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For that mental capacity to be opened up a little bit more and focus more

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on what I need to get done, whatever.

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No, I need to get done.

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And, um, Getting that done.

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Yeah.

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Straight up.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, shit doesn't do itself.

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You have to do it.

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So that's a huge thing is with the entrepreneur entrepreneurial endeavor.

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And becoming entrepreneur, entrepreneur isn't for everybody.

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And it's not, um, It's not an easy thing to do, like yeah, of course.

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Manifestation is real.

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Uh, law of attraction is real.

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The reticular activating system in the brain is real.

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But luck favors the hardworking and where you put that energy.

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Your focus and energy goes to where you, you think and what you do.

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And so this past year, man, um, Literally, you know, trying to wake

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up and try my best to wake up 5, 5 30.

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Um, that's when the day usually starts and should be honest.

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Some days I wake up at five 30, I have some water and I get to work.

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Like literally there were times where this past year, like, I wanted to go.

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Gets do some things with the family, right?

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Like my niece, she's a dancer.

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And so we went to, uh, out to Seattle.

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I mean, it was like a whole day thing.

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Right.

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Okay, cool.

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I'm getting up at five.

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I'm knocking out a bunch of work until you need to leave at noon.

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Sure enough.

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I had a seven hour Workday before we even left and I got a shit load of stuff done.

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So I'm a couple of books, one.

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Um, Alex or mosey?

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Yep.

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A hundred million dollar offers totally shifted my, my mind frame around like

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not having habits become a crutch.

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Right.

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So like not having routines.

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Sorry.

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Okay.

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You're not having your morning routines become a crutch.

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Instead do what you need to do.

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Like had, let those be your routines and habits, right.

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Sure we want to meditate.

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We want to, you know, um, Half of water with apple cider vinegar,

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all these healthy things that we know we need to do have maybe a

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journaling session, things like that.

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But on the days,

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That you don't do those.

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And you that you let that mess up your whole day.

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Then that becomes a crutch.

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Yep.

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It's like, I didn't get this done.

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Therefore, my day is shit.

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And that's just like the all or nothing mindset.

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And it's like, no, I didn't get this done, but I'm going to get some more stuff done.

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You know, Um, And another book.

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Uh, ed my let's, I think it's the power of one more his book or max

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out, one of them, both of them.

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Great books.

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Um, but he breaks apart his days into three days.

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Uh, so he almost like, like three.

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My quarters, right?

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Yeah.

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Like three thirds.

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So he breaks up his days and the three days.

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And so he's like, no, I got it.

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I got an eight hour day in the morning at eight hours a day in

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the mid day and essentially eight hours a day later on in the day.

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Yeah.

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And therefore you can get a lot done in a day, but.

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I think.

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I'm kind of rambling as far as, um, your question, but, um, it comes back

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to being present in everything you do.

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Yeah.

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Whatever you're doing.

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Do it.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Really try it.

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Like that's what I've really been focusing on is like, okay.

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If I'm going to get up at five.

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Five 30 or whatever.

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Get up.

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Get do be present.

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Have your water.

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Get up, let your body naturally wake up.

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Be present and make some coffee.

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Be present, sit down, get some things done.

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And just be true, truthfully being as present as possible when you're doing.

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The things that you're doing.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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That way you becoming a human being and not like the human

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doing kind of saying, right.

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Um,

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And you respond better to like adversity and stuff.

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When you are more present.

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Um, But usually, I guess to go back on the original car driver asked me,

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cause I keep going all over the place.

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No, wake up time.

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Usually like 5 30, 5, 5 30.

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Yeah.

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Um, and then usually get a little work done, have a little snack, um, and then

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hit the gym, you know, around, try to hit the gym, get in the gym around 7, 7 30.

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Um, Jim or a walk.

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So usually when the sunset's coming up, definitely try and sync up

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with that and get out of the house.

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Get the natural light in everything you've talked about on your podcast, right?

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Yeah.

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Set master Katy and rhythms is I know that I'm going to have better

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sleep and better hormonal release throughout the day and everything.

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Um, Yeah, go to the gym.

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Definitely think it's a good, good way to start.

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The day is getting in, um, your workouts earlier in the day,

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rather than later in the day.

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There's some studies on that and stuff, but from my experience with

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helping clients develop better habits, I've noticed better adherence

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to those habits to working out.

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If you just get it done early.

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Um, rather than re later on in the day after work, you might not feel like it.

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You know what I mean?

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You might be like tired, stressed out.

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Adding more stress is going to stress you out even more.

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So you're less likely to do it.

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So getting after it and that, like, I usually have a better day

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when I work out in the morning.

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Yes.

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With my goals, you know, this past year I've been, I've put on some muscle.

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And that was a huge goal of mine is to like, get literally in the best

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physical shape, you know, I could, I could get, so it's pretty cool.

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I got got there pretty exciting, but.

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Yeah.

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You know, especially being like a college athlete and stuff.

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Um, And then.

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Yeah.

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You know, Following, truthfully following my calendar too.

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I got something huge.

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I block out in the morning.

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I have on my calendar, wake up time, deep work sessions.

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Right.

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So if I'm working early in the morning and I'm waking up and I'm

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getting that deep work in, whether that's writing content building.

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Uh, programs for clients and stuff like that it's scheduled in.

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Okay.

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And then gym time and scheduled in.

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Um, Setting boundaries, right?

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Like, I don't take calls until after about nine 30 or 10.

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So that's when I usually take coaching calls.

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Um, I, and I cut that off around five.

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At the latest, right?

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Like, I don't want to take calls going into my nighttime routine.

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Um, which I'll get into a minute.

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Um, And then just scheduling and everything I need to get done for the day.

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Right?

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Like for the week, you know, looking at your week, um, you know, I have

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a specific day where I do my client.

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Check-ins right.

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So that's something I need to get done for my business.

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I do a specific day.

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Um, specific hours where I'm doing social media outreach.

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So reaching out to prospective clients, um, and engaging with, with the community

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there, I have specific times where I'm building my clients programs, um,

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and then just sticking to those right.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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It's sure if it's cool if it's there, but then it's really awesome to stick to them.

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Um, so that's great.

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And then as far as family time and stuff, I usually try to, well, I want

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to talk about eating habits as well, a little bit, because that's something

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that's been really important, especially as someone who's in control of their.

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Environment and working environment.

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Um, and that being co mingled, right.

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In an RV.

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And then in a small space and a lot of people working from home

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might relate to this too, is, um, you really got to break up your,

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your desk time and your food time.

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I have to, like, it's so important for health, so

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important for just peace, right?

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Like giving yourself a break from work, you get off of lunch and

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then you show up better for work.

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So a big habit I've really been working on, um, this past year of dialing in

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is just disconnecting from everything electric, you know, electric and social

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media work and everything, and even eating at a totally different spot, you know?

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And oftentimes outside is best to eat for me.

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Cause if you're just outside.

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You be at the birds and sunshine and all that.

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Um, Yeah.

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And then.

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So pretty much, honestly, just kind of getting after it throughout the day.

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Um, breaking up my work schedule.

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So sitting a lot.

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Trying to get up every hour or so to just get in on mini workout or not even

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a workout, just walk or something like that, to make sure we're staying mobile,

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you know, and just continue moving.

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And then, yeah, I mean, at nighttime turning my phone off, I put my phone

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on airplane mode around eight, 8:00 PM.

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And, um, that's like a strict rule and honestly, maybe watch something

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or read or something like that.

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So, yeah, honestly simple and like, That's been my theme this whole year.

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Because I want to build something substantial with my business and I've

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wanted to build something impactful.

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You know, um, and I knew I had to simplify everything else.

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So like diet.

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Literally like.

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Meat vegetables, rice for the most part fruit.

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Yeah.

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A little bit of oats, like very simple.

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I could count on 10 fingers, everything I've been eating

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this past year pretty much.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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So making that simple as possible.

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Yeah.

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Um, yeah, I mean, any, anything you want to dive into?

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So actually I do, I, I think.

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The simplicity of the, kind of a lot in my bed.

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No, you're good.

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No.

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No, no, don't worry about it.

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Um, I really, I resonate with that minimalism, that simplicity because.

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You know, when you live in a cluttered environment.

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It's kind of just like, yeah.

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You know, you feel more cluttered internally as well.

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And so when you can really, you know, I always think of, I think it was like

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Steve jobs, you know, he had like,

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I think he, yeah, he.

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More like the same.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And so he spent zero brain power.

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Yeah.

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Getting ready in the morning, you know, because he realized that his

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brain was put to better use in.

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Doing other things.

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Right?

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And like, obviously if you're a fashion person, then it might be different,

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but like, you know, trying to really make the things that don't need to be

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so important, not important, you know, just like make it easy, make it quick.

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Yep.

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Um, and I think even with food, it's like, I don't want people to think, like we eat.

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Dole food in any way, because it really, if you just stick to a

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few simple things, like you can have variety, but like make it.

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Well, what I like to do is I like to sometimes do just a one pan meal.

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You know what I mean?

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And so it's like a protein of your choice.

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You know, so you can switch that up and then a veggie of your choice.

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You know, and then maybe a salad.

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And so it's like you got a full, really well balanced meal to be

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really quick, to make an easy.

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You know, and honestly, like I use similar seasonings each time, so

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it's just very quick and um, that way it's still healthy, but you don't

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spend a ton of time and then yeah.

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That way then you do you look at the stuff that's so important.

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Yeah.

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Uh, you turned me on to the.

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Productivity journal.

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Yeah.

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In that journal.

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I thought it was neat.

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There was, there's only like what, like five slots.

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Yep.

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Of things to do for the day.

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And to me, I remember when I would make my own list.

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Sometimes it would have like 10 or 15 items on it.

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Yeah.

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And I never really ever finished those lists.

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You know what I mean?

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And then.

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Then kind of like highlight or whoever the author is really highlighting that look.

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You ha you can pick five things with the first thing, being the

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absolute most important thing.

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Second thing, you know, third thing, and then like in order,

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and then designating time slots.

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To doing it right.

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And then that way.

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Uh, what I really love from that was.

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Okay.

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I understand this is going to take me an hour and a half approximately.

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Crush it work at it and get it done and then take a break.

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You know what I mean?

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And that helps you say much more effective with doing it.

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So I really liked that.

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And then, uh, um, I was, I'm curious though, so like, uh,

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I like what you said about the morning routine, because one sec.

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Yeah.

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Because on, um, the developing the routine and stuff like that.

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You what?

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What was really cool about hiring a coach for me was they made me do a time audit.

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And so they, wow.

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Made me map out every smart, pretty much every 15 minutes of

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the day, like every 20, 15 minutes.

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What were you doing?

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What exactly were you doing?

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And for me, a lot of times I was on social media way too long.

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And so it's like, obviously if you're spending time, there, there

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are some adverse effects and you're not spending time somewhere else.

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So that was huge.

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Eye-opening.

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You know what I mean?

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Literally putting it on a spreadsheet.

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What do I do every single day?

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Um, even just for a week or three days is life-changing, that's like when you have

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your clients send in photos of their food.

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Yeah.

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Food.

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The first, so many months, you know, it makes them more.

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They, you know, they realize, oh wait, hold on.

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I'm actually going to send a picture of these nachos.

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To my coach.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that now I wanted to mention that too.

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It was like,

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If you're unsure where your time is going, if you're like,

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oh, I have so much time or.

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I don't have any time in the day.

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We all have the same 24 hours.

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MI you fricking Warren buffet, every successful person out there.

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You know what I mean?

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Everyone has the same amount of time.

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It's just being present, doing things you need to get done and

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not focusing on other things, certain things that aren't serving.

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Your goals or your who you are to an extent, right?

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Like, I'm not someone that resonates with sitting there on social media.

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So I was like, that's I don't want to do that.

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Yeah.

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So now I'm like strict.

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Okay.

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I get on social media.

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For one, I'm there for a reason.

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And then, um, as soon as I forget that reason and that I'm aware of it, I'm off.

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You know what I mean?

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Just being hyper aware of that.

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Um, but yeah, took me hiring a coach to really do that time audit.

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You know what I mean?

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Could you, could you imagine if someone actually like, if, if

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everyone did a time audit, sorry.

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You're good.

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Yeah.

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If someone actually did a time audit of themselves and also did like.

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A massive, deep cleaning of their house.

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For example.

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Like not just cleaning, but like actually going through

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all this stuff in your house.

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And like, my uncle always says, if you haven't used it

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in the last year, then toss it.

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It's cool.

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Sometimes, maybe for some things it's not like necessarily by.

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It is.

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You haven't used it in a year.

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Do you really need it?

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Like you.

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Using the damn year.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, I don't know.

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I feel like those are really strong practices cause they do, they help

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you focus on just what you need.

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You know what I mean?

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And it's funny.

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Like even I, myself, I, uh, Before I left on my trip.

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I like packed up a bunch of stuff and put them in boxes.

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I'd like crack two of those boxes because there was like a couple

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of, and I'm like, oh my God.

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There's like all these stuff, all these things in here

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that I haven't even touched.

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And I've been back like a couple months already, you know, so right.

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It's eyeopening.

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Um, I got another question for you, Kayla.

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And do you have any other points?

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I could, we could continue that forever, but, um, mentality is a big one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Uh, how old are you?

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Yeah.

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Literally though.

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Uh, it's funny.

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Okay.

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So now let's, I want to move into a little bit of the health.

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And so I have a question I want to say, what in your time as being

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a coach, have you seen to be.

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A, the biggest issue people come across in terms of health.

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And then, um, maybe B being like.

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So the biggest, the biggest issue people have with health.

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And then what do you see them struggling with in terms of

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like, trying to then fix that?

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Hmm.

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Man, I think a lot of times.

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A lot of people.

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And myself included.

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And we've talked about a little bit too, is just like the overall confusion.

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About kind of like the, uh, analysis.

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Uh, perhaps now, what is it?

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Paralysis by analysis, right?

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Like.

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Social media Googling everything.

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Uh, YouTube, right.

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Everything.

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Right.

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We are constantly shown.

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What is, and what's not what should be.

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What we need to do.

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Right.

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It's really hard to sift through all that and figure out what works

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for you, because you're like,

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Uh, you just, you get paralyzed.

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You don't know where to start.

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And so that's probably one of the biggest things.

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Um, especially coming out of the pandemic, starting my business.

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Um, a lot of people are just, you know, they put on extra pounds over the,

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over the, they, they picked up some.

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Unhealthy habits over the pandemic.

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Um, whether it be watching too much TV, drinking too much, whatever it is.

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And then you just don't know where to start, right?

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Yeah.

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I just don't know how to kick it back in the year.

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Um, Yeah.

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So that's probably one of, I'd say one of the biggest things that I think

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people are finding really confusing with health and wellness overall.

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Um, and then the second part.

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Like in, in those issues, what do you like?

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For example, you, someone is I'll just make a simple, like

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someone has trouble losing weight.

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And then like in achieving that goal, what is usually the

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biggest issue that comes up?

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Like, what's one of the biggest difficulties for.

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People in accomplishing that goal.

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I think, I think with that confusion comes a lack of adherence.

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Right?

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Okay.

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To a diet, right?

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It goes a lot with too with like crash diets, like paleo and keto and vegan.

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And Jenny Craig.

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You know, all kinds of different stuff is yes.

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Those work.

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But those set you up for failure, because what about after that?

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You know what I mean?

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And so, um, I think the biggest, biggest thing.

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Um, Well, not, not, not the biggest thing, but, uh, I think a great place to

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start is to start figuring out how foods make you feel and start figuring out

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how much food you need to eat as well.

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A lot of clients that I've been working with are under eating significantly

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and they have been for a long time.

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And then that goes into right.

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We hear OMAD one meal a day.

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Right, right.

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It's like, cool.

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Yeah.

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That could work for some people.

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And if that works for you, that's awesome.

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Hell yeah.

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You know, but you actually need to build up the metabolic machinery to

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be able to do OMAD sustainably, right?

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Yeah.

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And that takes possible reverse dieting, right?

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Like that takes possible Phi.

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Counting calories to figure out how many calories you need and your body.

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Yeah, it takes consistency on a few months.

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You know, or more to be able to build the certain habits that you need and

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prioritize a certain nutrients and, and macronutrients that you need

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in order to sustain it for life.

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So all along my client's journey with them, coaching them, I'm

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always asking them, do you feel.

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Do you feel like this is something you could keep doing forever?

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And I'm always looking for any sign that they're just like, ah, I feel.

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Uh, I feel, um, I feel like I'm, um, what is it like muscle burnt out or either

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burnt out or like, uh, they're not.

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Are there.

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Or if, if I'm sensing anything like that, I'm like, let's dive into that

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because that's what I don't want.

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Right.

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I want you to be able to feel like you can eat any foods that you want.

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Right.

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But not without doing the groundwork.

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Right?

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Like doing your kind of due diligence and meeting.

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Good foods most of the time.

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Right?

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Not good foods.

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Quote unquote, good foods, real foods.

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We should say.

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Yeah.

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You know, so I think along with that, like social media and like, um, You

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know, just the over consumption of.

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Of information.

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I think comes with a hard.

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Adherence.

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Like it's hard for people to adhere.

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To just living healthy, you know what I mean?

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Because they don't know what that looks like.

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So then that leads to them doing keto, sometimes them doing vegan,

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then doing, uh, intermittent fasting.

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Right.

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And.

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Leading them to just general confusion rather than, Hey, this is what

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you're doing for this amount of time.

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And that's how we're going to see what your body does when we do that

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and reacts to that, how you feel, how your energy is, how your digestion

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is, if your weight goes down.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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It's really funny.

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A lot, almost all my clients.

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I literally prescribed them to eat a lot of people.

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Three days, three meals, a day, two pieces of fruit.

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And I got this from Jordan Sighet, he's a fitness, health and fitness coach.

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He's got great content, kind of Gary Vaynerchuk style.

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Like.

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You know, cusses a lot and it's great.

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But he that's what he said is like, if someone comes to you and they're

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really, really overweight, really confused, anything like that, you just

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need to get them eating and eating whole foods and eating three meals a day.

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This is a fruit for awhile.

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Oh, wow.

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And get those wins going.

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Right.

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Um, and it's funny because when you make those three meals, nutrient dense foods.

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Healthy foods, right?

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Prioritize them.

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I like to say, you know, my, my holistic pillar number one is to eat close to

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the earth as possible in real foods.

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Right?

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80% of the time, if we're focused on real foods and, and holistic,

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uh, whole nutrient dense foods.

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We're going to be good, right?

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So a lot of times it's getting people to eat more because.

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They'll send me photos of what they're eating and it's just like, you know,

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you're eating like a bird and expecting to build like a human, you know what I mean?

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But it's like, nah, we got to switch things up.

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So.

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A lot of people are under eating.

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I think.

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Truthfully, you.

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And that was a bit, that was a big shock to me when I wanted

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to start putting muscle on.

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I had to realize how I literally have figured out how much you need to eat.

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You know what I mean to actually become a new person.

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Yeah.

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And so it goes both ways.

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If you're trying to gain muscle, if you're trying to lose fat, that goes both ways.

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You know what I.

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And it's confusing because not everyone has an understanding of metabolism.

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Right.

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And, and, um, how to hack that and how to manipulate it that way.

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Cause it sounds backwards.

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I need more.

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You're gonna be like, well, I'm gonna gain weight.

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Well, you might not because your body needs some more fuel

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and it's holding on there.

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It's like trying to be in survival mode.

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Right.

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So it's, uh, I think just a lack of adherence, which brings conf

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or a lack of understanding, which brings confer, confusion to people.

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And then I think that leads to like a lack of adherence

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because it's just so confusing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think even as a, it was a really long answer.

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I hope you got it.

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Yeah, no.

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I think the, at the core of that is it's true.

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It, you know, you can get really confused by all of the

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different health views out there.

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You can literally find.

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Studies for veganism for carnivore for any work.

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Yeah.

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And it's like, they're all going to have like stuff that

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shows a right or they're wrong.

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And I think once again, kind of like a theme of what we're talking

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about is simplicity, right?

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Like you just come back to, you know, whatever your diet is.

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If you live your omnivore, carnivore, vegan, whatever, it's like, just try

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to eat like as clean as possible.

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Like I said, Close to the earth foods and, uh, you know, the least

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amount of processing possible, you know, no sugar, hopefully.

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Well, no added sugar.

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I should say.

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Yeah.

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No seed oils, like keeping it very simple and, and yeah, like he give

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yourself a window of eating at a window of not eating, you know?

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Cause obviously we don't want to like.

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Eat 16 hours of the day and then only sleep and then

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immediately wake up and eat.

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But like, I do also think that it is it's, it's very complicated because.

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Depending on what your goals are.

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That's going to really alter your diet.

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Oh, mad is not for someone trying to be a bodybuilder.

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Yeah.

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Maybe at a certain point in their bodybuilding phases.

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Right.

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Maybe trying to like really.

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Like define.

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Right, right.

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But yeah.

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For sure, because you know, OMAD is like maybe a person has really bad

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diabetes or cancer and they're trying to starve out the cancer itself.

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Right.

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Maybe you try old, man.

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You know what I mean?

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And go that route or, um, And that's why I think finding a sustainable diet

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is so awesome that that's what you do.

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And, you know, I'm focused on that as well, but like, yeah, it is really,

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that's how you make the biggest changes in the future because.

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I know so many people, literally, I said, Jenny Craig, because that's something that

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like, I know people like, yeah, sorry.

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No, no, no shade on anyone, but like, you know, a few middle aged women.

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Like, you know, Oh, I guess I got to go.

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Go do Jenny Craig again.

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Cause I got summer coming up.

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It's like, dude, you could just have simple practices and you never have

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to set foot in that place again.

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And you'd probably be way happier because of what you're eating.

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But.

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Uh, yeah, it's just it.

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Yeah.

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Keep it simple.

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Like.

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Yeah.

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Just eat whole foods.

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And I do, I personally try to keep at least a 12 hour minimum window

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of no eating so that my body does have that time to reset and digest.

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But yeah.

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That's great.

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It's one of the first habits I nailed down with, with clients too is, and

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I tell them this, all everyone say, this is one of the things that you

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can take away from this program and, and live with the rest of your life.

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And that's to cut off your eating two to three hours before bed.

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It's just not for intermittent fasting purposes and all this

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cutoff for GI and shit like that.

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It's mainly just for good sleep.

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Yeah.

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Like, yeah, let's get your body stop eating.

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Get your body digesting that food.

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So that you can focus your breath, your body, and your brain can focus on

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doing what it needs to do during sleep.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Just that and walking.

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And eaten real foods.

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Most of the time.

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If we could just nail those three things down.

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I think it move your body low more, right?

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Yeah.

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Lift something heavy every once in awhile.

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Um, To get along way, I think.

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Yeah.

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And it just comes down to adherence.

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All of those sticking and being consistent.

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Yeah, I think I'm making it just more.

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More of a lifestyle practice.

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Yeah.

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So I have a.

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Another question for you, but before we move on, I really did want to

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mention, uh, I think consistency is something you and I talk about a lot.

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And I, and I feel like I have to talk about it all the time

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to keep reminding myself.

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Yeah, but also everyone else that like.

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You know, With a healthy lifestyle.

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It's a consistent thing, right?

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Like,

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If I'm the, I think the difference between going to a doctor, for example, and

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getting a pharmaceutical drug or something is like, you expect that pharmaceutical

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to work within the week, right?

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Like, I mean you take, I don't know, some, some pill, like you're expecting

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a very fast reaction from that.

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But in changing your lifestyle through diet, or even like

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a supplement or something.

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Um, and I'm thinking of my meditation that I was doing where I did it for 30 days.

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Yeah.

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That consistency.

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It's like if I were to only have meditated for a week and then just stopped, right.

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Or maybe I, and maybe I only did it once or, you know, three times

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in that week, the effect of that compared to doing it for a month,

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every single day is so different.

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Like you, yeah.

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And, and with.

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Um, I've even experienced it with, um, you know, supplements or holistic or,

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you know, food based supplements where, uh, you can't just take it for a week

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and then expect these massive changes.

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Like you got to go like a month or two.

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Uh, consistent every single day.

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And then you will, you will see the changes.

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It's pretty wild, but a hundred percent.

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Yeah.

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Um, did you have any thing on the consistency?

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I'm sorry.

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I did.

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But I forgot it.

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Got it.

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No worries.

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Maybe it'll come back to.

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Uh, no, that's all right.

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And, uh, that's okay.

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I have another topic, so.

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Well, if you, if you think about it, come back to it.

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But, uh, yeah.

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So I know one thing that is.

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I think most guys and some girls as well.

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Uh, are really interested in is like, What are your best tips for someone

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who wants to put on muscle as someone who went through this phase of.

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Non 20 pounds of muscle.

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Like what, what, like our, let's say.

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Three things.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, man.

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I think, I think people.

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I don't think people realize how resilient the body is and how

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much you can actually push it.

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You know what I mean?

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Safely, right.

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Like safely push it in and really, um, force it to adapt.

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You know what I mean?

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And so, um, a couple of tips I'd say is.

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For me.

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And my experience was you got to learn how much you need to eat.

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Right.

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In order, like I said earlier, in order to build a new body, we

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got to feed that new body, right?

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Yeah.

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If I want to put on 20 pounds of muscle, we're going to need

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to up that protein intake.

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Right?

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So a good rule of thumb is like, if you're tracking your, your protein, good rule of

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thumb is like 0.8 to 1.2 grams per pound.

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Of body weight, so desired body weight.

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So if I'm trying to get up to 200, I'm going to start eating 200 grams of

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protein from working my way up to that.

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Maybe even 2 20, 2 30.

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So, um, And then you have to of course working out and stuff like

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that, that all comes into play.

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But, um, Yeah, learning how much you need to eat.

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Right.

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Stay consistent with that.

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Because one day you might hit 180 grams of protein.

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Next day, it might be 150, but once you start tracking that and actually

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hitting that day after day after day,

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That's when you get the results.

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That's when you start to force your body force, your metabolism force your

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muscles to actually start to grow.

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Um, But you also have to drink the train, like for sure.

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If you want to put on muscle.

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Strength training.

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I'd say, is it resistance training?

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Is it?

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And it doesn't have to be, um, you know, like for weight loss, a lot of times,

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um, if I have a client who's, you know, hasn't worked out a long time, I'm not

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going to get them in the gym just yet.

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Like I'm going to get them doing some body weight stuff, squats, lunges,

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you know, um, fricking pushups, working them, working their way up.

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To be able to have some reserve, like that's, that's enough

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resistance for a lot of people.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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So, In order to force the body to adapt, we're going to need to

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manipulate it with some training, right?

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So you can do that by if you're having limited equipment.

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Like I had for a while.

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I'm like I put on about 15 pounds of muscle with the same set of, I think

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I had a 60 pound kettlebell, uh, 35.

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And a 20.

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And I had like 2 35 pound dumbbells and a weight vest.

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Yeah, that was pretty much my setup this whole past year.

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And then once I got a gym membership, I was like, oh, hell yeah, we're.

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After now I got.

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All the tools, you know what I mean?

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I ain't got no excuses.

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So I started going really heavy on squats, which I'll get into.

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So if you have the same similar us, you know, very minimal equipment and you

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can't really change your weights, right.

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It's not like you're sitting there with a barbell and you can add the weights.

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Right.

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So you're going to want to add reps, right?

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So there's a few ways to build muscle and height hypertrophy.

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Yeah, we've talked about before, right?

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Getting the reps you want to increase the time under tension.

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So that means either slowing down right.

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And increasing that time that that muscle is under that load.

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Right.

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Or, um, increasing the rep range.

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Or both.

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Okay.

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Right.

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So personally I do a mix of everything.

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Yeah, I think, I think it's important to be very well adapted

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to any type of movement almost.

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You know what I mean?

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Um, So adding more.

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So if you have limited equipment with like only so much weight,

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you're gonna want to do more reps.

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So instead of, you know, if, if you realize that down the line

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three sets of 10 was pretty easy.

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Why not try four sets of 15 next week?

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You know what I mean?

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Or four sets of 20, right.

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And you need to be those last reps you need to be struggling.

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You know what I mean?

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Like I always like to think of your lifting face.

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If you're lifting face is just kind of like.

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Chillin.

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You know, and you're just kinda like not really breaking a sweat.

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You ain't really lifting.

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You're not really forcing your muscles to adapt.

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But if you're like, ah, right.

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Face starts to grind.

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I start to get low grimacing.

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That's a good indication that you're forcing your body to adapt.

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Yeah.

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And that's, what's going to help.

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So there's that way.

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And then if you do have access to a gym, you're going to want to

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add the weight you want to add.

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You know, there's there's you can add the reps at the similar or same

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weight range, or you can start to progressively overload over time,

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like say a 12 week period or so.

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You're going to want to add rep uh, add weight to the bar.

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So you're gonna want to force your body, forcing it to make it stronger to.

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To read, to grip the muscles, to open up the new capillaries,

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to force the body, to adapt.

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And then that's a real place for all the protein to go.

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So I saw a significant jump in body, weight and body mass, specifically my legs

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and like my, my core shoulders and chest.

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Once I started, um, up in the weight a little more.

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So it makes sense, but also comes with a little bit of, you know,

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could there's a little bit more risk for injury as well, right.

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Especially if you're not doing the certain things, you know, warming

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up properly and stuff like that.

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And making sure you're working your joints through a full range

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of motion and stuff like that.

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So,

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Yeah.

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You know, either up your weights.

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Or up your reps start throwing a little more weight on the

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bar, you know, little by little.

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Maybe it's five pounds this week, maybe it's 10 pounds next week.

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Um, and he got to figure out how much you need to eat.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That is important.

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So important.

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If you want to change your body, you need to eat to feed that new body.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So, yeah.

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I mean, those are honestly, probably.

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Two.

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The biggest tips.

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Yeah.

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So break them down again for me.

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Yeah, just learning how much your body you need to eat.

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Okay.

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So in order to force that right in order, yeah.

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Can't feed that new body feed that new body.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And then, um, either if, if you don't have access to like a full gym, right.

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Where you can throw on extra weights.

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You need to up your reps right up your time under tension.

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Yeah.

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And then if you do have access to.

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A, um, A gym.

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Or throwing on more weights or adding more weights or buying

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more weights or whatever.

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You need to start adding more weight, right?

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If you even with kettlebells, if you're doing.

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You know, squats with two kettlebells and you're only 20 pounds.

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See if you can work your way up to 2 35, see if you work your

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way up to one 60 pounds, right?

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You.

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You know, and so just add more weight.

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You have to force your body.

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And I would say also, if you want to build muscle.

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To sprint.

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Yeah, straight up.

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Yeah, sprinting is by far, one of the best things you can do.

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It is the most primal thing you can do.

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And to release human growth hormone in the body.

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Like there hit workouts are great.

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Yada, yada going all out sprint, like your N like you are a wild

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animal chasing for something after your, you know what I mean?

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Something's chasing you.

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Whatever you have to do to put yourself in a Ms.

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State of mind to get yourself to sprint at an all out level is going to hands

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down, increase muscle mass for sure.

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You said it also increases growth, hormone human.

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Growth hormone.

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Yeah, it's something like 300 to 700%.

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That's off of sprint.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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Every once in a while, forget that I was like, oh shit, I haven't done

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sprints in a while and I'll go do them.

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I'll do six, five or six next day.

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Almost every muscle in my body is sore.

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I'm just like, damn.

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That's why I like sprints.

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Yeah.

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So it's super important.

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W now, for example, let's say let's let's, uh, and that could

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be sprinting on like a bicycle.

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Okay.

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That could be sprint.

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Exactly.

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Rowing machine.

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That's awesome.

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I've been working my parents up to that.

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We just started getting them on the rowing machine.

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Um, and just go.

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You know, intervals, right?

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Like, yeah.

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Go 20 seconds.

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Heart.

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Yeah.

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And then slow down just literally walking pace.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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For two minutes.

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A minute, two minutes to let yourself fully recover and then go hard again.

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Right?

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You want to be able to give a hundred percent all out efforts.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cause I was thinking, I know for a, you know, a lot of people in their

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50, 60 seventies, they start getting those knee problems and stuff.

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And running starts to become kind of what, you know, A lifer.

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Yes, it is truly life or death situation, then do it.

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But, uh, yeah, like, so cycling, rowing, something that softer

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on the joints is also great.

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I go all out.

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Cool.

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Cool.

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And a full body kind of movement to.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So cycling, you could do a cycling sprinting, um, shoot.

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You could probably do it on elliptical.

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I had left to go.

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I've ever been on an elliptical.

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Yeah, I don't think I've ever used.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, but yeah, probably even just trying to go full out on an elliptical.

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It could work.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Cool.

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Just pushing past a little bit out of your comfort zone.

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So important.

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Okay.

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You know, for that forced adaptation, you're trying.

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Force your body.

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To become new.

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Yeah, you need to force it out of that comfort zone.

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Just a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Love it.

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All right, Caleb.

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And now eaten, man.

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Got it.

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It seems like a big theme.

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If you want to put on muscle, man, you got to eat cool.

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So.

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I also wanted to ask a guy, I got two more loaded in the barrel right now.

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The first one is.

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What now?

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Okay.

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I always preface this.

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So we're going to get into supplements right now.

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Okay.

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But before I go into that, I always say this, like with anything before

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you worry about your supplements, get your, get your food, right.

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That diet locked in, eat real foods.

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Best supplement best supplement is a good diet.

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Like there's, there's nothing that's going to beat that.

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Like literally, you know, like there's nothing that's going to

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give you more of the vitamins and minerals and enzymes and everything.

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Then.

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Yup.

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Now, moving past that.

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What's now when you get into supplements, because there are

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certain supplements that I do think are pretty important, especially if

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you're low in those, you know, Yeah.

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Um, that's obviously important, but.

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Uh, I personally, I like to try to keep my supplements as

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whole food form as possible.

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It's hard to do that.

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Um, but I wanted to ask you what are some supplements?

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Just a couple, uh, and, uh, that you have really found to be beneficial from

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mental health to, uh, to building muscle.

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Just whatever.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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Good question.

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So yeah, absolutely.

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Nail that new diet.

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Honestly, eat lots of protein.

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And if you're not vegan or eat, no matter what your diet is, I

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think protein is, is, is essential.

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Um, if it's an animal form you're getting in a lobby amino acids, and you're also

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getting in creating, which is on the, how many explain next is probably my top.

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Recommended supplements for sure.

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Yeah.

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Creatine.

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Not not, uh, not just for bodybuilders, not just for Olympic athletes, not just

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for athletes, literally for everybody.

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I have my parents on it.

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Like we.

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We're at a point in sight sports science and like nutrition science,

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where creatine is the most, um, Researched supplement on the market.

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Hands down.

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One of the safest things you could take.

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Um, creatine monohydrate.

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Just go get some on Amazon.

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It's amazing.

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So, So good for you.

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We'll help you store, um, your help yourselves at cellular level generate

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more energy, um, specifically during strength training and stuff like that,

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but also in the general lifestyle, right.

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You're going to you're, you're going to be more of an efficient machine

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if you have creatine in your body.

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Um, and it's something that our creatine.

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Uh, mechanisms that in our body, they, we, uh, produce less of it as we get older.

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Okay.

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Now it's really interesting.

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It's not just for building muscle.

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It helps you stay hydrated more.

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Um, it helps yourselves actually hold water.

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Better.

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It's really cool.

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It's awesome.

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Great.

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Um, yeah.

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Uh, it also helps with the energy output.

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So if your resistance training helps you get the most out of

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your resistance training, you feel like, um, you have another gear.

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I like to kind of say.

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It's like, it's not like pre-workout E it's just.

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Randomly we'll hit you.

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You'd be like, damn.

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I feel like that set was pretty easy.

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Yeah, I got another gear.

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You know what I mean?

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You're like, that's that create that creatine possibly.

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Um, But it's also really good for the gut lining.

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It is an amino acid it's amino acid.

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So it's really good for the gut linings.

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Really good for the brain.

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They're using it in clinical studies to treat Alzheimer's and, um,

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cognitive function in the brain.

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Wow.

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Stuff like that.

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So across the board, especially if you've been following a plant-based diet,

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Um, like I was for years.

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Getting creatine.

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And my diet was life-changing.

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Hands-down helped me put on muscle.

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Hayden helped me maintain muscle, help, my brain fog, fatigue, everything.

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So.

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Hands down.

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I think creatine is probably one of the best supplements, like synthetic form.

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What I'm saying?

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Um,

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What's even, it's an, it's an amino acid.

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So I don't, I'm not exactly sure what it's made out of, but yeah.

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Right.

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Like.

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W where it's derived from or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Other than that, man, I think.

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Along with the theme of my life lately has been simp simplicity.

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I've also done away with a lot of supplements.

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That's just kind of like, no.

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Let me simplify right.

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So, um, I think for me, I've really dialed in, I think magnesium is really smart for.

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Not everybody.

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Yeah, because a lot of people are deficient in it and they don't

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even know it like one of the most efficient minerals, I It could be

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something as subtle as an eye Twitch.

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It could be something as subtle as a little bit of brain fog in the day, or

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sleep disruption or problems digesting.

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Food right.

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So including.

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Uh, comprehensive, um, magnesium someplace supplement like a complex

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with multiple different types of magnesium in it, I think is really good.

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Um, so that was the one I recommend and then official oil, I think fish

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oil or some type of omega omega-3 yeah, it's going to be critical because, um,

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That's like, that's like brain food.

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Yeah.

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It's good for the brain.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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It's good.

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For every cell in the body, every single cell in our body is wrapped

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in the fat that we consume.

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Yeah.

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And I think it was a Dr.

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Hyman who Dr.

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Mark Hyman, who I've originally heard, say that.

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And, um, It's awesome.

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When I train harder, I take like two to three times the amount of

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supplements or of fish oil that I take, just because I know my body is

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demanding more and the recommended dose on there is just a recommendation.

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And so I always like to play with, with why not double it or quadruple it.

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You know, we were kind of talking about that earlier.

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Um, and the thing with a creatine and supplements in general is

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again, consistency and inherency.

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So making it as simple as possible, you're not going to see the best results if

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you just take it every other day, every few days, when you remember things like

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that, creatine, especially you need to actually saturate the muscles for like

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three weeks or something like that.

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Some people say there's a loading phase, but you don't really need to do that.

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You just need to take your consistently day after day, even on your rest days.

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Okay.

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To saturate the muscles.

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That way your muscles are able to get it in and absorb it.

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So, um, same thing with all supplements.

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Got to stay consistent with them.

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So that's like,

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You know, a lot of, uh, some of my clients it'll be like a.

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Hey, you taking, taking environments, taking your supplements, you know?

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And they're like, nah, I've been forgetting, you know, it's like,

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okay, well, Let's get them every day.

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Yeah.

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And so it's a habit that we need to build.

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Um, other than that, I think.

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For, um, immune health cellular function of vitamin D has been critical.

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I think that's really important to include.

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And also, um, and you turned me on to this, a zinc and copper.

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Yeah.

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And since then haven't gotten any flu, any colds or anything like that?

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Yeah.

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Um, I actually feel myself every once in a while.

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We'll start to get something, but my immune system is really strong.

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It'll kick it out pretty quick.

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It's pretty cool.

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Yeah.

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And I think that's really due to the copper zinc.

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And then obviously vitamin D is like, it's like a hormone.

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So it's super critical.

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Um, so that's probably honestly, that's my supplements right now.

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And I do take like, uh, an amino acid supplement just for more, um,

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I talked to repair.

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Essential amino acids, right?

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Just for more muscle repair and everything.

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But.

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Eating your protein.

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You get a lots of, a lot of amino acids.

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You're rebuilding muscles protein.

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Isn't like a fuel source.

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It's a rebuilding source for your protein synthesis in your body.

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So, um, carbs is more of like a fuel source, you know?

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Um, so yeah, creatine, a fish oil, magnesium vitamin

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D, and then seeking copper.

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And I do love like medicinal mushroom mushrooms as well.

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Yeah.

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Lion's mane, Turkey, Turkey, tail, Rishi.

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They're not necessarily part of like my every day thing,

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but, um, I like, they're great.

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They have a really good place.

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Just like we had some today, you know, it's like, yeah, good energize.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah.

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I think that's, uh, probably the quick.

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Rundown, um, of major supplements.

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I, I, yeah, because I'm thinking of other supplements, like spirulina and chlorella.

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Even the mushrooms.

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I don't consider themselves moments.

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Those are foods.

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Yeah.

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So it's kind of like supplements.

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Even like whey protein, right?

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It's not, I don't really think it's a supplement.

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It's.

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Sure.

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It's a protein supplement to supplement additional protein into your diet.

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But, um, for the most part, I don't think it's like.

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Uh, supplements food.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it is.

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Uh, I think, for example, uh, also, uh, just to say, uh, for those of

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you who don't know, take vitamin D three with K2, there you go.

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Oh, he's got to pray those two, but aside from that, a hundred percent

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agree on every single one of those.

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Um, yeah, like, and I agree.

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I like most of my supplements are like a food.

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Literally, right.

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So, yeah.

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Spirulina and chlorella, like you mentioned is yeah.

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Stupid incredible does a lot of great things.

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Um,

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Yeah.

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Katherine orange nude was on and spoke about.

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An hour's worth, how long have all the benefits?

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Like it's incredible.

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Um, and then yeah, the mushrooms are, yeah, they're, they're our food as well.

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And uh, to me, Uh, with the mushrooms, they're super powerful and it,

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but once again, it's one of those things like you really have to be

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so consistent with it to notice it.

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And I remember when I noticed the ma the biggest difference.

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Um, was with lion's mane and I took it for about a, like a month straight,

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every single day would take it.

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And, uh, man, your mental clarity, it's super weird.

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It's like it happens so subtly that you don't realize it, but

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I was really keeping tabs on it.

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And I remember by like day 30, I was like, dude, my mental

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clarity like is on every day.

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It's not, there's like not a day of brain fog and like recalling.

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Facts or someone's name or whatever.

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It's just like right there.

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And you never had to like, uh, give me a second, like come

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to me, you know what I mean?

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Like, it was always there.

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Uh, we're more drinking or what is it?

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Uh, word recall, right?

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Yeah, no.

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Yeah.

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For real.

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Um, but I, I love the mushrooms, like hands down, probably some of my

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favorite food supplements, but yeah.

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Uh, yeah.

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And yeah.

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Um, yeah.

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And then, uh, the last question I had for you, Kayla was, uh, On that fire enough.

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Dang dude.

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You and I, we talk a lot about, especially you, you talk a lot

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about primal and ancestors.

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Yeah.

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Everything, but, uh, I, I think there's a really good.

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Reason for that.

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And I mean, I have my ideas and I want to hear yours.

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And so for, for all the listeners, Why is it a good idea to.

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Like if, when UBS, when thinking about a health trend, maybe like a diet or

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any kind of those practices, like.

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I personally, and I know you do as well.

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Yeah.

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Think of it in terms of like, okay, so this is what people are doing now.

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How like did we do that?

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10,000 years ago?

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Yeah.

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Or 5,000, however far we can go back.

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Like, did we do that then?

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And then, you know, kind of trying to compare the two and like see how they

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fit and why is that a good idea, man?

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I think that's a really.

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I could give a really long answer and we could like really

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go down some rabbit holes.

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But, um, Joe Rogan long.

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Type episode.

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And I think, I think you got a.

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We have to like, keep in mind that why we have a bunch of things.

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Right.

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And so this is kind of like, why do we have so many processed foods?

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Why do we have.

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So many supplements.

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Why do we have so many things to consume so many restaurants,

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all these things, right.

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A lot of it is for fun and pleasure and stuff like that.

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And that's cool.

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Um, but also a lot of is for over consumption.

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Right?

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That's.

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I love that podcast you put out there was over-consumed and undernourished.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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And that's exactly what's happened, right?

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The only way we gain weight and get unhealthy is we eat

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too much of the wrong foods.

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We eat too many calories.

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We don't move enough.

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Right.

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We are.

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It's simply down to science of not putting enough output and too

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much input of, you know, foods.

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Yeah.

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You truthfully could be relatively healthy and eat at a calorie deficit

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and truthfully eat whatever you want.

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Right.

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Because calories in calories, out type of thing.

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But.

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Then I like to think, well,

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I always thought we've ran animals.

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You know, as a kid, as a kid, Um, I was always like, we are animals and

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like we're no different than like, yes, we are the most dominant species.

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We're not fucking monkeys.

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We're not birds.

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Right.

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We're not.

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An animal or human.

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Yeah.

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But, um, What was it like for ancestors?

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You know what I mean?

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And, um,

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Definitely they had less disease, obviously they

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didn't have the more advanced.

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Um, medicine practices and stuff like that to knock out diseases and stuff.

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So they died.

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Relatively younger, but they did a lot of, a lot of ancestors that

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lived to eighties and nineties.

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You know what I mean?

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It's just to add different life factors in.

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Real more realistic Def.

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Uh, to face right.

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Um, So going back to that over consumption is like, well, these things are, we have

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designed them to be over eaten, right?

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With design chips, everything about a chip is designed for over consumption.

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From the price of it to the way the bag looks to the taste, to the smell, to

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the crunch, to the molecules that it's made of to affect your gut, to affect

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your brain, to make you crave it more.

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Yeah.

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Everything.

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Right.

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So what's in that is a lot of, you know, sure.

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We can call it like capitalistic.

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You know, ideals or whatever to buy more because it's cheap.

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To eat more because it's cheap, things like that.

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But to what detriment, right?

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Um, so it just always to come back to real foods, that's what ancestors did.

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They ate vegetables.

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They ate fruits, they ate seeds, state ate, fricking meat.

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They ate, you know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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And so, um, I think the more.

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And I am truthfully, I'm like a living product of it.

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And I like, my clients love following this lifestyle.

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It's like, can't we just adhere to eating real food most of the time, right?

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Yeah.

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You know, Can we even do that without having to worry about calories?

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You know what I mean?

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Can we do that by developing healthy eating habits so that we're satiated and

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not over full, because that's kind of something that our ancestors probably did.

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They probably didn't overeat like crazy for one, they had

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to ration a little bit maybe.

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And if you overeat.

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You're a little far JAIC you're you're drained of energy.

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Yeah.

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You're not going to be able to run away from a prey or something really fast.

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So.

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To me on a holistic, just kind of like a lethargic sitting there all, let

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me just get attacked by something.

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Yeah.

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Um, so it's kind of fun.

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I really think we're at.

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We're at an interesting time in history where we can combine

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the two, you know what I mean?

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The kind of modern.

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Science of dieting and health and nutrition and stuff with these

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ancestral kind of ideals that we have.

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You know what I mean?

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And it's just interesting to me to look back into it.

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I think it's cool.

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The whole ancestral kind of knowledge, there were a lot more

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connected spiritually to the earth.

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They were connected more to their food.

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Obviously they were hunting it and forging it and stuff like that.

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Growing it.

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Um, So I just think if I find a fascinating dude, And like the

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more we can just simplify it.

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Right.

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And like get away from the complexities, get away from over-consuming.

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I think it just frees up a lot of freedom in our choice and, um,

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Ultimately in our economy, right?

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It's like, what kind of economy do we want to have?

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Your dollar is a vote to every single thing you put in your mouth.

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Everything you go and buy.

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Right?

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It's fun to go out, have drinks.

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It's cool.

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Absolutely right.

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We just went out for St.

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Patty's day.

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You know what I'm saying?

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It's like, yeah, go out and to have some junk food, let's go do that.

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Yeah.

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But then the next day, what did we do?

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We cooked breakfast.

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We made our own coffee.

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We got.

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I'm saying.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So.

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Not saying you have to be ultra religious about it.

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You know what I mean?

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You can go out, you can have McDonald's and still prioritize the right foods.

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If you have to go to McDonald's and order some chicken breasts.

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You know what I mean?

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Right.

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So.

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Um, Again, you could follow like an ancestral lifestyle

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eating in a modern world.

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Yeah.

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So I think it's just fun.

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Honestly.

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I think it's fun.

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I think it's a different approach to health and like, I think it's

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just a lot more connected to nature.

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And I think the closer that we live to that is.

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The more in harmony, we could be with the not only ourselves, our spirits.

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But also the collective, you know, and the human race, you know, it sounds

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kind of woo-hoo, but, um, it's real.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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You know, Yeah, I also, uh, I a hundred percent agree.

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And I think the only thing I would add to that is.

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I know that.

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Biology.

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Takes time to evolve.

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You know, like literally if you've been living your life in a way

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for, you know, 5,000 years, and then you change it like drastically

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in a hundred years in a decade.

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Like that's a very short amount of time for your biology to adapt to a new diet.

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The new lifestyle, you know, so that's why I always like, all think.

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Yeah.

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And we don't have to go back so far.

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No, no.

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Really our grandparents, dude.

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Yeah.

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I mean, go back a generation or two where there was less refrigeration.

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There's less transportation.

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There's a lot less.

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Obese people for sure.

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Yeah.

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Health concerns, cardiovascular diseases.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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So it's like, they were just eating.

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More real food.

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Yeah.

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And less processing more go lock down the chip aisle.

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Now how many different types of chips are there a whole IOT?

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Like literally Frank chip companies.

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You know what I mean?

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They make you think there's a lie that probably all.

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All owned by just like wandering.

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Yeah, no, I'll back then.

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It was like three, four.

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You.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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I mean even, and those were a treat for sure.

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That's the other, other aspect of it is, is.

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Uh, the amount of like, yeah, of course there was bad stuff.

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A hundred years ago.

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How often did people have it?

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Yeah.

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And a bad stuff was probably less processed.

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Because less.

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Yeah.

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You know, Just so much.

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Yeah.

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So much goes into it and.

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I think that's why I really like going and con comparing.

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We're like modern life and how I, how we live it today

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compared to the back of the day.

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And I think you can really find so much value in it from literally, you

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know, like thinking of technology, because that's really easy one to use.

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It's like,

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We didn't have cell phones like.

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You know, we didn't have the screens in front of our faces all the time.

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I mean 40 years ago.

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Like not even long, but.

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Uh, so when we, when we look at that and we see like, okay,

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what are all these implications?

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Well, sleep is screwed.

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We can see that, like you.

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You know, many people will have issues getting into bed.

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You know, how many people have sleep apnea?

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Hi, like just so much.

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And it's like, If you took that phone.

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Never use it.

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It would probably fix so much of it or, or even just, you know, the light, but yeah.

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So I, I love being able to just look at it in that frame and think like, okay, Was

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was this around back then, if it was like, how would it have been used and right.

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And all that.

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So, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's cool.

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And, and, you know, through my health coaching practice, my

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certification and stuff, and.

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I'm I'm biased, right?

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I'm biased to the ancestral way.

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Like I have my holistic pillars of health.

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Coach my clients through and interweave into their lives and stuff like that.

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And it just gets to a point where it's fun.

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You know what I mean?

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It's not like dogmatic.

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It's like, no, you can be on your phone, but let's just be conscious.

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Of how it affects us both negatively and positively.

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Yeah, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Social media is awesome.

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Oh yeah.

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Serious stuff with.

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Able to reach thousands of people.

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Yeah, this conversation that we're having.

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Just two people in a room.

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And that'd be, but we can put it on the interweb and it goes off to the people.

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That's awesome.

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So being aware, right.

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And like conscious of the negative and positive.

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Yeah, certain things, you know, Um, yeah, I don't know where I was going

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with that, but yeah, no, no, no.

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I think just like you said, like knowing that like, even with the

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modern stuff, it's like, you don't have to go completely primal on it.

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You can have, um, a medium point.

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To go live her kingdom.

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No, no, there's a, there's a balance.

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Everything.

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Please don't go.

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Please don't do that.

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Um, but yeah, man, I think.

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I don't know.

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I think that's pretty much, uh, yeah, all the questions I had.

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I do want to, I just had a thought to like back on to, um, Well, you said,

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well, you asked earlier, like just, just a couple of tips or whatever.

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Is fine.

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Just gaining control.

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In the kitchen, you know what I mean?

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Controlling what goes on in plate is huge.

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And I think that's just a fun thing too, that we need to.

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Try and work on bringing more peace and more connection and more

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excitement to rather than stress.

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Right.

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A lot of times it's like, oh, I got.

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I got a meal prep, Sundays, I got a meal prep.

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This, it doesn't have to be that hard.

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It could be just making twice as much as you make.

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Yeah for the next day or something like that, but overall

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controlling what ingredients go on your plate is really cool.

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It's really fun.

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It's really controlling.

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It's really, you feel satisfied.

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You feel.

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Uh, in control of that habit and that ritual, and it's also a new connection

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to your food, which I think is really important because now we think of.

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You know, kids are growing up thinking that food is a bags and the chip is jolly.

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Ranchers is just a state that shows up on the plate or whatever.

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But, uh, when you go to the butcher shop and you have to

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go through the certain things.

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You know what I mean when you go and if you can grow some of your own food.

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You know, be just getting more connected to the food that goes on your plate.

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Yeah, it's pretty fun.

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And it's just a more exciting way to go about dieting and nutrition and

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you can make your own meals forever.

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Yeah.

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You know, that's a sustainable thing.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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You don't have to make every single meal, but maybe you can make.

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Lunch starting out, you know what I mean?

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Or breakfast every day, starting out, you know what I mean?

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Um, so yeah.

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I wanted to mention that.

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Cook at home, dude.

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Yeah.

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Cook.

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The home control the ingredients that go on your plates.

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It's the best way to know that you're eating healthy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think yourself, Marcus, Marcus filly from functional bodybuilding,

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really good content that he puts out.

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Um, we're not brothers.

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I swear.

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Let's put both kind of look Neanderthal ish.

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Um, but, uh, he says to cook with elite, try and try to

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keep it under five ingredients.

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Yeah.

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For gut health.

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I was like, that's a cool rule.

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Right?

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So.

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Including, you could include that spice is included in that too.

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Just simple.

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It doesn't have to be tastes like shit.

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Right?

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Doesn't my meals tastes amazing.

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And I make them super simple.

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You.

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I know that I'm like the poster child of cooking or anything.

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Right, right.

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Yeah, anyways.

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Yeah, man.

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I love the Caleb, um, good stuff, man.

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Yeah.

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Feel, I mean, feel free to share anything else and also just where

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people can connect with you.

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Um, yeah man.

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Yeah.

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Like you're super active on, on all the social.

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So share it.

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Yeah, Caleb would fitness on everything.

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YouTube, um, Instagram, Tik, TOK, LinkedIn.

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I'm on, I'm on all of them.

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So Facebook, whatever.

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Uh, mainly use Tik TOK and Instagram for the most part to tell.

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YouTube.

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Yep.

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You can look forward.

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I'm trying to get some more like long-term long form content

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out on YouTube right now.

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I'm just kind of doing the short form stuff with little

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tips and tricks here and there.

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But, um, I want to start doing some, a little more educational stuff.

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Kind of sit down.

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Um, really dissect some, you know, Some topics and stuff like that.

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So, If you're interested in that, go follow the YouTube page.

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Help you grow that that'd be cool.

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Um, Other than that.

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Yeah.

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Kayla Boyd fitness.

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That's pretty much it.

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Yeah.

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If you have any questions.

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Um, yeah, holistic health and fitness coaching.

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That's pretty much it.

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That's what I was going to say.

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If you don't mention it.

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Uh, he's an incredible coach.

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I've known him for a really long time now, and I can attest to what he does.

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Uh, his, uh, his clients are living testimony.

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Uh, you can go see it on his page, the work that you do, and, um, Yeah.

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But get in touch with him.

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If you're dealing with any health issues, of course you can reach out to either

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of us just for questions, but like you're serious about getting, getting

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healthy and like changing a lifestyle.

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Developing these practices for sustainable period of time, the

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rest of your life, basically.

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Highly highly recommend reach out to Caleb.

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Um, ask him about his programs.

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He's super easy, not oppressing guy and on your face.

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So you can actually ask him a question and he's not going to shove a.

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Quote down your throat.

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He's gonna talk to you.

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I'd be like, Hey, let's just see if we're a good fit.

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So check them out.

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Yeah, I can't say enough.

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Good stuff.

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Thanks for coming on the show again.

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And, uh, dude, just thank you for being a brother.

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Daddy brother.

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Love you too, man.

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Always man, always, dude.

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So I could have you here.

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Yeah.

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So everybody, you know, the deal, do you everything with good

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intentions connect to your elements?

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Stay primal.

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I don't know.

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What's eat real food.

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Eat real food.

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Yeah.

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And a simplified.

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I think that was the simplify man.

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Kind of a core principle of today's episode.

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I like it.

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Yeah.

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Cool.

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All right, everybody.

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Much love, subscribe, follow all the good stuff, leave a comment,

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let us know what you liked.

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Elemental Evan
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The Elemental Evan Show, takes an easy and fun approach to health and wellness, making in-depth health topics easy to digest. Focusing on health from an integrative perspective, this show incorporates all areas of health from diets, to relationships, to healthy mentalities. Certified Universal Yoga practitioner and IIN Health Coach, Evan combines holistic health practices with scientific data to bring you fun and interesting episodes. You'll finish each episode feeling empowered to make changes in your life that can both add years to your life and life to your years. Follow along as we cover every health topic you can think of as Evan shows just how connected everything is, both inside your body and in your external environment.

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Evan Roberts

Welcome to the Elemental Evan show. My name is Evan Roberts and I'm a certified IIN Health Coach and Yoga Teacher. I love taking a whole approach to health as everything is connected. When you treat one issue in the body, you'll inevitably treat other issues in the body which is why I try to look at things from a big picture perspective. Through this show I'll be bringing you information packed episodes on tangible ways to improve your overall health and wellness. I hope you walk away from each episode feeling empowered and renewed to take on the day and take control of your health!

Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and grow with me.

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