196. This Might be the Most Nutritious Food! Feat. Catharine Arnston from Energybits.

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Here's Catherine Arnstein.

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Catharine: My big news was got the PhD.

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And what someone asked me, I

was at this pneumonia conference

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in West Palm last week.

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And they said, Is it an honorary PhD?

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It's like, No, this is the real deal.

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I read as well.

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study a stack of medical books.

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I had to write exams.

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I had to meet the dean.

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I did get credit for, I didn't have

to write a thesis because I have

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done so much writing and research

on mitochondria health with algae.

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So they gave me credit for that.

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But, um, you know, I was, You know, I

didn't tell anybody because, you know,

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I wasn't completely sure if I was going

to pass my exams, but I did and, uh,

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my graduation, you know, procedure or

whatever you call it is in March, but I,

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I got the certificate already and, and,

uh, I'm officially in my emails and we

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haven't made an announcement announcement

yet on Instagram, but it's just, it just

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gives me comfort that I, um, you know, I

actually do know what I'm talking about.

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And, uh, um, I can, I can, and

I felt comfortable, but it was

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still, you know, my background was

in business and 35 years on MBA.

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And who knew I was going

to be a science geek.

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I love science.

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Evan: That's a huge accomplishment

and it's a ton of work.

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Um, I love learning, but I

have no desire to go back to

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school, at least at the moment.

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So I really applaud you on that.

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And now I can go ahead and

put Doctor on your name.

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Yeah.

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Title.

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Um, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Uh,

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Evan: what was, uh, what was

something that you learned?

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Through the teachings that maybe you had

wrong previously and kind of corrected

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and then what's something what are some

things that maybe you learned and you're

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like, kind of still iffy on with, uh, you

know, like bringing together the citizen

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science world and then academia, right?

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Catharine: Right.

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Well, um, you know, I have a

niece who's actually an ER doctor.

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doctor.

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She runs the whole place and I have so

I mean, we know the medical students

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have to learn and apply so much and I'm

so glad I don't have to apply what I

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learned every day on real humans like

she does because I just wanted it so

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I could do more research and have some

street cred and all that sort of stuff.

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So I had to learn, I mean, I should

show you the list of books, I had

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to learn all about the heart, all

about the brain, all about the immune

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system, and there's the detail.

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I have so much more respect for our

bodies, I mean, it is complicated,

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unbelievably complicated, and I had

to learn things like, Drug, uh, herbal

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and vitamin interactions with drugs.

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That was the hardest one because

they're so esoteric and there's so many.

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I mean, it start, you start to

realize why you do not want to take

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medications if you can avoid it, if

you can find something else, because

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the, the interactions and the, the

side effects are just so extensive.

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They just cause, and I've always known it.

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Peripherally, that it causes almost

as many problems as, um, it solves.

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And also the third highest cause

of death after heart disease

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and cancer is medication.

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Third highest, there's a term

for it, I can't think of what

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it is, it's a fancy Latin word.

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Third highest cause of

death is medications.

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Medications interacting,

medications being taken incorrectly,

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too many, too, too little.

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It's crazy.

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It's crazy, so.

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Learning the extraordinary depth

of complexity, uh, blew me away

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and I'm so grateful that I don't

have to apply it every day.

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Um, but on the other hand, I also,

also completely understood why

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there's so much, much mis, um,

diagnoses and misunderstanding.

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Because There's so much about the heart.

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When you're a heart specialist,

that's what you focus on.

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You're not looking at the, you know,

uh, the whole spiritual connected

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piece because lots of, you know, it

turns out that a lot of digestive

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distress and gut biome issues.

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Cause heart attacks, but the heart

specialists doesn't know anything

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about the gut and same with they've

realized that the damaged mitochondria

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are a main cause of heart disease, but

because There's the highest amount of

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mitochondria are in your brain and also

your retina, which is literally the front

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part of your brain They're now realizing

they can pre diagnose and prevent heart

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attacks if there is damaged mitochondria

in the retina, which is much easier to

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evaluate because it's right here, instead

of having to go in and do an incision.

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So, but the heart specialists are

not talking to the eye specialists.

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So, so, You start to understand

why there's this, you know,

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there's that graphic that's

been around forever about this.

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There's this elephant and there's a bunch

of people standing around with blindfolds.

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And one person has got their hand

on the trunk of the elephant and

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they think it's a certain animal.

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And somebody else has got their

hand on the body of the elephant.

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There's so many things.

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People are diagnosing based on

just such a small slice of their

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knowledge, um, uh, and of the patient

that they see in front of them.

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And there's, there's so much more.

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I've just been finishing a great, uh,

lecture series by, um, um, oh gosh, I'm

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just, I'm just blanking on this name.

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It was on one commune.

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Um, Oh, was

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Evan: it Zach

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Catharine: Bush?

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No, I, but I do like, I do love Zach Bush.

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Uh, no, this is, um, Dr.

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Bruce Lipton, he wrote the book

called Biology of Belief and um, how

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everything is energy and when you are

treating an individual, The doctors

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don't know anything about energy and

energy healing, which is so unfortunate.

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But it's not just the

energy of the patient.

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It's the energy of the

environment they're in.

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The energy of their other family members.

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Uh, because that, that, that sort

of disruptive energy Causes your

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cells to respond in a different

way if you are negative and

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frightened and then if you're happy.

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So, and a lot of the negativity

may come from you being unhappy in

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your job or being have, you know,

having digestive distress or, uh,

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family issues, financial issues.

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And you can't just.

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Treat a the patient or

the organ in isolation.

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You need to look at the whole picture

I have been a fan of Bruce Lipton's

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for 20 years and I would have I Hope

I'm sure I'll be able to see him one

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day give a lecture because he's so

smart and so brilliant but the way he

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Lectures and shares his knowledge is

sort of how I'm trying to do which is

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take very complex subject matter make

them easy to understand, almost fun.

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He uses very simple analogies

because he's not trying to impress

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anybody because he doesn't have to.

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He's Bruce Lipton.

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He's trying to share what he's

discovered with the world, which

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is exactly what I'm trying to do.

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I'm not doing any of this for, you

know, like when I tell people I got

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the PhD, it's just so they'll feel

comfortable that I'm telling them

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something that I have a certain amount of.

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scientific background to validate

what I'm sharing with them.

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Nothing for, you know, kudos.

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Um, but anyways, so there's the

ultimate irony is that health can be

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easy, but we have been misinformed

about the way to make it easy.

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We've been just been misinformed.

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We've been given programs and

information that are outdated.

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In fact, the irony is the

information that really is relevant.

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Is the oldest information is centuries

old, and then we got offline with

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all this new fancy pharmaceutical

jargon, and I was treating individual

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organs in isolation, and it makes me

so happy to be part of the movement

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of bringing back the simple nature

derived solutions because I don't work.

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Not quite addressing the topic I'm

here for, but the ultimate irony is

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the things that are going to make

us happy and healthy and live longer

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with fewer chronic diseases are either

free or very affordable and natural.

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sleep, movement, breath, sun.

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And I put algae right in there

because I'm going to help people

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understand that A, it's first

life on earth 4 billion years ago.

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But, uh, if you take 10 tablets a

day, uh, which is what we recommend

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for your average adults and you use a

discount code when we have one for your

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community, it works out to a dollar a day.

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Everybody can afford a dollar a day

and then your grocery bills will

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go down, your, your health will

be better, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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So.

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So, um, uh, and you know, that's

just, I'm trying to live my life.

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Although it's, was difficult

at first because I have an MBA.

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I came from corporate, which is very

stress oriented, uh, high, high intensity.

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And I'm like, how am I

going to build a company?

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That's going to make a difference

in the world and not stress

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my team, not stress myself.

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I have stressed myself.

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I will say that, but I, I've done

my best not to stress my team.

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Um, but, To follow these same principles

of, you know, natural and I've, I've

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loved yoga and walking and sleeping.

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I mean, I sleep, sleep

is for me, sleep analogy.

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They're the two most important things

you can do to keep yourself healthy.

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And we'll, we'll go

through some of that today.

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So, uh, yeah, yeah.

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Evan: Well, I think as well, you,

you are correct that a lot of, uh, a

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lot of the biggest needle movers in

health are very simple, very free.

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Uh, you know, everyone has access to them,

but I will say the difference is, is that,

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um, you know, if we, and like, once again,

not bashing the medical realm necessarily.

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And like you just said, like

they're incredibly smart people.

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They learn so much.

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There's so much to know

about anatomy and physiology.

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It's crazy.

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But, uh, you know, unfortunately we are

in this kind of situation where Everyone

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is kind of looking for that really easy

answer the here's a medication for that

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takes care of this Well, you know like

give me the quick fix as opposed to kind

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of going to that root cause and really

kind of Level and then understanding that

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hey, I'm gonna take a little more effort

at first right until you design your

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lifestyle be that of a healthy lifestyle.

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So it might require you to go for a

15 minute walk after a meal, right?

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It might require you to prioritize

your sleep a little bit.

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It might require you to get creative

with the food that you're making in

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your kitchen and utilizing using.

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you know, better fruits, vegetables,

um, you know, and really just becoming

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more mindful of that, which I think

is, it's difficult because asking

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people to change their lifestyle.

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Evan: Unfortunately, that's,

or, or fortunately, that is

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where the, uh, the cause is.

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It's how we're living our life day to day.

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It's the, the little choices we make

that add up all day long, as opposed

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to that, you know, then the little

blip of, Oh, take a medication.

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Or it's like, you got to

live a healthy lifestyle.

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And then.

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Supplement it like a

base has to be covered.

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It's really

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Catharine: hard for

people to make changes.

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I know that I've had to make changes,

but, um, and because I think what

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happens is when you're making changes,

all you can see is what you're losing.

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Oh, I can't, you know, my friends all are

drinkers and I'm not drinking anymore.

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I'm not going to be

able to make my friends.

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Well, maybe.

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Maybe you'll find new friends who

share your, or maybe if I have to

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go to bed early, that means I'm

not going to see my favorite show.

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Well, maybe you could record it and

then you could watch it when you're on a

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plane and you've got some other downtime.

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So, so, but we only think of the.

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Things we're losing, not the things

that we're gaining because the loss is

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very evident and, and, and historical.

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And we know the past,

we know what we've done.

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The future is so unknown.

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And so usually when you are afraid, you

know, you're worried about something it's

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because you're afraid of the unknown, but

what if the unknown was so much better?

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Uh, and you, you just.

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make room for that little better

unknown instead of assuming it's

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going to be, um, an unhappy unknown.

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But that being the case, that's the

other reason why I love algae so much

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is because I tell people, you know,

what, if you have these habits that

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are contributing to, uh, um, uh,

less than optimal health condition,

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it's like being in a boat with holes.

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And every time, you continue that

bad habit, the hole just gets bigger

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and your boat slowly starts to sink.

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And so, and people don't

want to make the change.

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So this is where I love algae tablets

so much, because if you did nothing

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else, you make no changes whatsoever.

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You just added them to,

particularly spirulina, because

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there's lots of health benefits.

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We're going to talk about that,

because, um, especially for women

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and breast cancer and stuff, it

will start filling the holes.

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So that you're, you're not sinking.

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It will get you balanced again, and

then you'll maybe start having some

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more clarity because there's also

lots of science that shows that when

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you are fear driven, like most of our

world, your, your frontal executive

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core part of your brain shuts down.

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It's just not able to function properly.

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And the amygdala, which is the

fear driven part of your brain

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stays in charge of everything.

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And so, um, it just, it's, it

blocks the good, uh, evaluative

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capability, cognitive capability.

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So the spirulina, First thing it does is

it improves your brain capability because

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your brain has the highest mitochondria

in, in, um, of all of your cells.

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And when you can get your brain

functioning better, then that

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will start helping your cognitive

abilities and lots of other things.

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But we can not, but you didn't

have to change anything.

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You just had to add it.

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And if you can't swallow 10 tablets in

the morning with a glass of water, you

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You know, I don't know what, you know,

there's nothing, I don't, it's the

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easiest thing that you could possibly do.

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I chew mine, of course, but

everybody else seems to swallow them.

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But anyways,

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Evan: you're a hundred percent right.

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Because I, so I always like to start with

the low hanging fruits, the easiest thing

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to, or, you know, the thing that's going

to give the biggest return on investment.

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And so of course we start with lifestyle

change, but then once we do move into

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nutrition and supplements, I like to look

at what are the things that are going to

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give me that highest return on investment,

which is where, Microalgae spirulina

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chlorella really come into play for me

because they cover so many bases, right?

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It's not just and typically a supplement

should cover multiple bases, right?

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Like you take vitamin D It's

good for multiple things, right?

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But spirulina and chlorella definitely

fit that category having crazy high

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levels of chlorophyll 40 plus vitamins

and minerals all nine essential amino

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acids like it's just it's a really crazy

easy, low hanging fruit for me personally.

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And it's so easy to take, like you

just said, uh, you've made it in

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a very, uh, digestible format, I

guess would be a good way to say it.

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But, uh, yeah.

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And then you had mentioned

with, uh, breast cancer, which

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is a topic I wanted to jump on.

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Yes.

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Uh, because I know you were, uh, talking

a little bit about breast cancer awareness

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month, uh, that had recently passed.

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And as well, of course, you have

some, uh, personal history with that.

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Not with yourself personally,

but, um, within your family.

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And so, what are some of these benefits

we can find through these microalgae?

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in terms of, uh, cancer

fighting properties.

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Catharine: Yeah.

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Well, um, uh, so, um, the there's

spirulina and chlorella are both

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called superfoods, although because

spirulina is so nourishing and we have

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two brands, we have the energy bits and

the beauty bits are exactly the same.

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We just package them differently.

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because we found women didn't

like the blue packaging.

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And I started, as you mentioned, I

started the company because my sister had

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breast cancer and she completely healed.

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So, um, Spirulina has so much nutrition

and, uh, there are particularly two, um,

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nutrients that we're going to talk about.

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One related to, to breast cancer.

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breast cancer and one related to, um, all,

all diseases, including heart disease.

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Um, so I call spirulina your health

and, um, your nutritional insurance.

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It gives you everything your

body in your mitochondria need.

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And then chlorella, which we'll talk

about later on, which is also helpful for

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preventing and correcting breast cancer.

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It has, it builds your immune

system and it pulls out toxins.

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And so, um, and it kills bacteria

and, you know, it kills your gut.

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So I call this your health insurance.

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So spirulina is very much

your nutritional insurance.

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Chlorella is your health insurance.

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So what are these nutrients particularly

in spirulina that are so beneficial

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for preventing heart, um, uh, cancer?

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Well, it turns out this, uh, there's a

couple of things that the, one of the

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reasons why we called spirulina energy

bits is because it gives you energy.

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Now this isn't energy like a stimulant.

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A stimulant is like caffeine,

chemicals, sugar, and you get a

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burst of energy, like putting paper

on a fire and then you get a crash.

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With spirulina, the energy is developed,

is nurtured and created at the

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cellular level, something called ATP.

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And it's like putting a log on

the fire because it's By the

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way, your body cannot store ATP.

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It has to use it immediately

when it's created.

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So, um, when you have a greater need,

cause maybe you have cancer or maybe you

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have, um, a stomach issue or can't sleep,

your body's struggling to maintain ATP.

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or reach equilibrium.

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And so it uses up more energy.

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So you need to be sure your

mitochondria are functioning.

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And if you're not quite sure

what mitochondria are, they

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generate that cellular energy.

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Um, they're not only the generators.

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So they're, uh, of the cellular energy.

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They're like the, um, they're

like the light bulbs in an office.

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They keep your, You're the

energy in your cell working.

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So they create the energy

and they are the light bulb.

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So, so when you don't have enough

mitochondria or their damage, it's like

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having fewer lights on and the fewer

lights you have, the less ability your

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body or your brain has to either protect

you or recover from anything, anything.

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So there's a couple of

key nutrients in here.

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that, what I say, turn your lights back

on so that your mitochondria can work

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and they can function better for you.

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One of them is this blue pigment.

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So spirulina is called a blue green

algae because it has two pigments in it.

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The blue one, which I'm sure you've never

heard of before, it's called phycocyanin.

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I'm going to spell it

P H Y C O C Y A N I N.

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Does not exist anywhere

else in the universe.

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Someone asked me if it was

the same as methylene blue.

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Methylene blue is a fabricated, um, and

it's an important, um, sort of nutrient.

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But this makes, this is, it's like

the warmup bag for phycocyanin.

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And this is natural.

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This is from mother nature.

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So this blue phycocyanin that's

only in spirulina, what does it do?

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It kills cancer cells.

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And that's pretty important.

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And it does it automatically.

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Um, and I'll, I'll tell

you how exactly it works.

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works.

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And, and the chemotherapy

companies, by the way, use

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phycocyanin in their treatments now.

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And the way they determine if their

treatments are working is if they

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measure this little molecule I'll tell

you about called cytochrome C, because

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what phycocyanin does is it ejects it.

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But let me, let me, I'm

getting ahead of myself.

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Here's an experiment that was

done, uh, and I'll send you

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this paper and everything.

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So they took cancer cells and

they put them in a Petri dish

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and they dyed them purple.

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And over a period of 24 hours, uh, and

they added phycocyanin to the petri dish.

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So after 24 hours, the cancer

cells were virtually gone.

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Now I did a, I looked at the test and

I saw how much phycocyanin was used.

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And uh, one of our spirulina L

energy bits tablets has, I think

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4, 000 times more phycocyanin than

they used in this cancer experiment.

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Pretty crazy, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So.

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We all have cancer cells

in our bodies at all times.

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Here's the thing.

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Your cancer cells won't multiply and

turn into a damaging health condition

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if your immune system is strong

enough to keep it at bay and if your

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Cellular pH is slightly alkaline.

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There was a scientist by the name of

Otto Warburg in the forties, German

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scientists who won a Nobel Prize for

discovering that cancer cannot exist

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in cells if they are slightly alkaline,

which is about just slightly over seven.

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The scale of acidity to

alkalinity is zero to 14.

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So seven smack dab in the middle.

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And as long as it's like 7.

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1, that indicates that there's oxygen

in the cell, that the cell is healthy

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because when it becomes too acidic,

the cell starts being unhealthy.

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Your mitochondria become unhealthy.

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They aren't generating ATP properly.

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Uh, and also cancer cells

cannot go through a process,

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which is called apoptosis.

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This is what cells that are healthy

when they are, when they start to

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not feel so well, or they've had a

good life and it's time to go, they

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go, Oh, Time to get out of here.

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It's sort of like someone

who's had a 50 year career.

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They're being retired.

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They go, this has been great.

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Here's all my projects.

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Here's all my contacts to

the younger generation.

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Knock yourself out.

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I'm out of here.

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That's what a healthy self does.

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It goes through this process called

apoptosis, which means it divides itself

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into multiple little other cells, no

inflammation and every, all the cells keep

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going, but an as cancer cell or what's

called a senescent cell, which is a cell

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that has subdivided so many times There's

no more healthy DNA, it's, it can't do

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anything, but it doesn't die because it

can't kill itself, and it's inflammatory.

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So it, it, this is one of the things

that contributes to disease, but

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neither one of them can kill themselves.

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So this blue phycocyanin,

here's what's so cool about it.

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I don't know if you under, know

the process of how you create

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ATP, and maybe what I'll do is

just, give you a quick lesson.

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Uh, to generate ATP, there's this thing

called the electron transport chain.

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I know it's really a mouthful and

basically there's these molecules embedded

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in the inner membrane of the mitochondria.

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And what they do is they pass electrons

from one, one, molecule to the next,

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and at the end, the generation of

this ATP cellular energy occurs.

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Very similar to in a relay race.

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In a relay race, you have runners, they

pass a baton to the next runner, who

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passes it to the next runner, and then

they hopefully cross the finish line.

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Well, in the electronic transport chain,

that is also going on, but instead of

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a baton being passed, It's electrons.

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And, um, the, you need to be sure that

these molecules, which are the runners,

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are close enough together so they

can pass the electron to each other.

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And if they don't, the electrons

escape and cause free, free

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radical damage, blah, blah, blah.

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But the key is, there's this little

helper molecule between two of them.

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It's called cytochrome C.

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And, in a healthy cell, that blue

phycocyanin speeds up that little helper

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cell, so more electrons can be moved.

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It's like having a Tesla, vroom!

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Suddenly, in a healthy cell,

the blue phycocyanin speeds up.

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moves the electrons along faster.

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This is one of the reasons why spirulina

gives you energy in an unhealthy cell.

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But in an unhealthy cell, the blue

phycocyanin detects that it's either

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a cancer cell or a senescent cell.

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And what does it do?

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It ejects the cytochrome C molecule,

which triggers something called

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capases, which triggers this thing

called apoptosis, which kills the cell.

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Wow.

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Kills

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Catharine: the cell.

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Wow.

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That's the main pathway of how this works.

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This is why I call spirulina intelligent

food, because you have to be intelligent

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to take it, and it knows what to do in

your body, and it does it automatically.

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How crazy is that?

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But there's a kicker here.

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that phycocyanin is

deactivated by high heat.

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Here's a science paper

that I found about that.

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So if you are using algae that has

been, and this gets back to one of

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your other questions, if you're using

algae, that's been, uh, you, uh, dried

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with high heat and almost all the

lower quality, lower priced ones are

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because they need to, you know, Get

to market quickly to sell quickly.

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So if you're going to, you know,

target or Costco to buy your spirulina,

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I can almost promise you that they

used high heat to dry it, which

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deactivates that blue phycocyanin.

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So it's like, so it doesn't do anything.

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It's still blue, but it's not active.

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: 00:28:09

Um, it's like buying a car

with no engine under the hood.

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So.

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Yes, it looks pretty not

going to go anywhere.

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Um, the only other place that, so

I know for sure, because we don't

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use high heat to dry our algae.

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So this is activated for sure.

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The other place that you could go to

get this activation is through raw or

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frozen spirulina, because once again,

it has not been exposed to high heat and

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the places like the Pocarty's Institute,

which is a very prestigious 50 year

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old healing center in West Palm Beach.

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They've been treating cancer

patients for 50 years.

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What do they do?

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They give them saunas, red light,

spirulina, fresh spirulina every day.

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Um, and, um, they want to work with

us because after the patients are

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discharged, it's really hard for people

to find fresh or frozen spirulina.

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It's also messy and expires

quickly and tastes terrible.

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So, um, They're interested in working

with us because this is a raw food because

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it has not been exposed to high heat.

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So that's one of the most amazing

properties of this, of spirulina

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for the cancer killing capabilities.

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By the way, this blue pigment also

has what's called all these scientific

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things that have long jargony names.

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Uh, it's, It's anti

angiogenesis properties.

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What is that?

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Angiogenesis is the formation of blood

vessels, which is normally a good thing.

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Not when you have cancer or a

tumor, because what they do is

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they reroute the blood vessels

to feed the cancer or the tumor.

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So this anti angiogenesis

capability of the blue phycocyanin.

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intercepts that.

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Basically, it's, it's like a

traffic cop saying, nope, you

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: 00:29:54

cannot go past, you know, turn here.

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: 00:29:56

You got, you're out of here.

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: 00:29:58

So that's what the phycocyanin, it's

the traffic cop that says, no blood

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vessel, you are not feeding that cancer.

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It ends here.

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And so that helps shrink

the cancer or the tumor.

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And again, it does it automatically.

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So, um, and phycocyanin is its own

antioxidant, which, uh, and the

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key with free radicals is you need

antioxidants to neutralize them.

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: 00:30:20

But the mitochondria is the only cell

in your body that has two membranes.

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And that second inner membrane is

impenetrable by most antioxidants

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: 00:30:30

like vitamin C can't get in there.

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: 00:30:32

Vitamin E can't get there.

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: 00:30:34

Drugs can't get in there.

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: 00:30:36

But virtually all the nutrients that are

in algae, spirulina and, and chlorella,

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both, uh, which is chlorophyll,

glutathione, um, superoxidizmutase,

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which we'll talk about next, this blue

phycocyte, they can all get in there.

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So it's a great way to get into the

mitochondria, neutralize the free

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radicals that are, being released

because they're always released

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as a byproduct of the cellular

energy and keeps the cell healthy.

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Also, they're all very alkaline,

which again creates that

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: 00:31:09

alkalinity at the cellular level.

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: 00:31:11

So there's oxygen because a

byproduct of, um, and we'll talk

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about superoxidizmatase next.

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: 00:31:16

It's the key antioxidant that protects

the mitochondria and the byproduct

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: 00:31:20

is water and oxygen and you need

Both of them in your cell to keep

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: 00:31:26

it alkaline and to keep it healthy.

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: 00:31:28

So, um, but this blue Fico sign is real

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: 00:31:31

Evan: quick.

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: 00:31:32

I wanted to, I wanted to, I have

to stop you right there because.

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I wanted to touch on a point and thank

you for covering the kind of, uh, cause

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: 00:31:41

this is a common question I've gotten

since, uh, like a lot of our podcast

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: 00:31:45

episodes have come out was that raw

living spirulina was, you know, had a

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: 00:31:51

hundred percent of all the benefits and,

And you know, they were going on and on.

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: 00:31:55

And I knew that you used low

heat, like very low heat.

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: 00:31:59

And you use sound, uh, to break the

chlorella cell walls, like taking all

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: 00:32:04

the measures, growing it on, you know,

triple filtered spring water, like really

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: 00:32:08

just going to the, to the full extent.

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: 00:32:09

And I feel really good on

it, which I use personally.

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: 00:32:12

I use a lot of anecdotal

evidence for myself.

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: 00:32:14

Like how do I feel when I take it?

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: 00:32:16

So kind of gone down that route, but.

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: 00:32:18

Thank you for highlighting.

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: 00:32:20

It is still a raw food.

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: 00:32:22

Maybe, uh, I don't know that it

would necessarily be in that living

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: 00:32:25

paste or frozen form, but, uh, I,

I have a hard time believing that

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: 00:32:30

it doesn't contain those benefits.

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: 00:32:33

And so thank you for really driving.

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: 00:32:35

Catharine: Well, spirulina

is not just a raw food.

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: 00:32:38

It is a live food.

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: 00:32:40

It will grow.

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: 00:32:41

Chlorella is raw but not live because

the cell wall has been cracked.

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So it has been modified.

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: 00:32:48

So it's no longer a live cell.

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: 00:32:51

But spirulina, our spirulina,

can't say the same for anybody,

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: 00:32:54

is not just raw but live.

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: 00:32:56

Um, and algae is its own so

fascinating food category.

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: 00:33:02

Um, most food crops, whether

it's corn or wheat or tomatoes.

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: 00:33:08

If the growing conditions deteriorate,

whether not enough sun, not enough

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: 00:33:11

light, the crops simply die.

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: 00:33:13

That's it.

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: 00:33:14

Not algae, uh, especially not spirulina,

but I think it's the same thing with the,

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: 00:33:18

I'm pretty, I know for sure for chlorella.

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: 00:33:20

It will go dormant indefinitely until

the growing conditions return, and I

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: 00:33:25

think I may have told you this story

about this National Geographic team

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: 00:33:28

going up to the Antarctic, taking

a chip of ice that they've carbon

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: 00:33:31

dated to be a billion years old.

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: 00:33:33

realize there was some algae in the ice.

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: 00:33:35

They put it in a petri dish,

added some water and the darn

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: 00:33:37

thing started growing again.

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: 00:33:39

So, uh, yeah, yeah, because it

hasn't been exposed to heat.

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: 00:33:42

It was just there it is.

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: 00:33:44

And so, so, so if it's not

exposed to heat like ours is,

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: 00:33:49

uh, not only is it raw, it's not.

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: 00:33:50

live.

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: 00:33:51

Um, and also this is the other interesting

thing about the tablets because we

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: 00:33:56

preserve all of these nutrients and

the fact that it's a raw live food.

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: 00:34:00

Um, we do have to put an expiry date

on them because the FDA requires it's

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: 00:34:04

three years out, but it never goes bad.

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: 00:34:07

Never.

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: 00:34:08

Um, even there's a biblical passage

about how, you know, Jesus was feeding

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: 00:34:12

the masses with manna from heaven.

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: 00:34:14

They now think it was algae because

the algae was growing on the rocks.

604

: 00:34:19

Now the light sunlight will pull

the green chlorophyll out of it.

605

: 00:34:24

So it's no longer green.

606

: 00:34:26

It's just white.

607

: 00:34:26

So if you go into down to the sea and you

see rocks with some white crusty stuff.

608

: 00:34:32

Pretty sure it's going to

be algae or other stuff.

609

: 00:34:34

The nutrients are still there.

610

: 00:34:36

This polysaccharides, the

proteins, the only thing that's

611

: 00:34:38

missing is the chlorophyll.

612

: 00:34:40

So, um, so it's just, it's just so

interesting to me that there's this

613

: 00:34:45

concentrated nutrients, um, food that's

been provided to us by mother nature.

614

: 00:34:51

You can never go wrong when

you follow mother nature.

615

: 00:34:54

Um, but it's just never

been explained to people.

616

: 00:34:57

I'm still.

617

: 00:34:59

Planning to grow it in Florida, um, you

know, it's going to be a big, inexpensive

618

: 00:35:05

process, but I'm determined to do

it because we need algae in America.

619

: 00:35:10

Um, you know, we don't want to, I don't,

we do import ours from Taiwan and we do

620

: 00:35:13

it very carefully with, with a company

that's been growing it for us for forever

621

: 00:35:17

and they've been growing it for 60 years.

622

: 00:35:18

But international stuff is complicated.

623

: 00:35:22

Um, there's a war in the Middle East.

624

: 00:35:24

So our ships that used to take two weeks

to get here are now taking two months.

625

: 00:35:28

So, um, and you know, we, who knows China

wants to invade Taiwan, just whatever.

626

: 00:35:34

So, so, um, we have lots of

things that we have to look after.

627

: 00:35:37

We want to keep helping people be

healthy with the best food that's

628

: 00:35:41

ever been created in the world.

629

: 00:35:42

So, um, but it has nutrients

in it that are unexplained to

630

: 00:35:46

people in the consumer world.

631

: 00:35:49

Scientists know about this.

632

: 00:35:50

The pharmaceutical companies

know you can Google.

633

: 00:35:53

Phycocyanin, now that you know how to

spell it, P H Y C O C Y N O N, Google

634

: 00:35:59

phycocyanin, and cancer treatments.

635

: 00:36:02

And, um, somebody told me Google's

taking stuff like this down, but

636

: 00:36:05

hopefully some of these reports are

still up there, like I found them, and

637

: 00:36:10

that's where I got this information.

638

: 00:36:12

I've, we've downloaded them,

so you know, we've got them

639

: 00:36:14

preserved, the scientific papers.

640

: 00:36:16

So, um, so yeah, you know, I'm just

sharing what, you know, Is I was

641

: 00:36:20

already been explored and defined

and measured and tested and proven.

642

: 00:36:25

Um, I'm not creating any of this.

643

: 00:36:27

I'm just sharing it.

644

: 00:36:28

Evan: Yeah.

645

: 00:36:28

So, well, and on that note too,

when, uh, when you start moving

646

: 00:36:33

forward with bringing, uh, algae out

to Florida, growing it out there,

647

: 00:36:37

Uh, I would love to be informed on

that and and see all the progress.

648

: 00:36:40

And if there's any way I can help or

maybe I'll come out and check out the

649

: 00:36:44

operations, because that'd be awesome.

650

: 00:36:46

Yeah.

651

: 00:36:47

Yeah.

652

: 00:36:47

And it's always also a pleasure

to just come and see you.

653

: 00:36:49

I know you've been doing so

many different conferences and.

654

: 00:36:53

going to, yeah, a bunch

of different places.

655

: 00:36:54

You have, uh, I had to write it down.

656

: 00:36:57

Was it the Academy of Anti Aging

Medicine Longevity Fest coming up?

657

: 00:37:01

Right?

658

: 00:37:01

I know that's

659

: 00:37:02

Catharine: affectionately

called the A4M show.

660

: 00:37:04

It's in Vegas.

661

: 00:37:05

It's the biggest show for, um,

functional medicine practitioners.

662

: 00:37:09

5, 000 people.

663

: 00:37:10

We've never done it.

664

: 00:37:11

It's our first year.

665

: 00:37:12

We've got a big booth,

taking the entire team there.

666

: 00:37:15

Um, and we're going to blow out the doors.

667

: 00:37:16

So, so we can't, can't wait to be there.

668

: 00:37:19

I, um, not speaking this time, but they

did invite me to, uh, apply for their

669

: 00:37:24

spring version and maybe next year.

670

: 00:37:25

So it's okay.

671

: 00:37:26

I'm, I'm earning my way.

672

: 00:37:28

I'll still be there to educate people.

673

: 00:37:30

Yeah.

674

: 00:37:31

Yeah.

675

: 00:37:31

Evan: And it's, like I said, coming

to your booth is always a great time.

676

: 00:37:34

Um, but I, I loved that you're going

to be at the, like a, uh, basically

677

: 00:37:38

a festival for longevity because, uh,

I know you were just about to kind of

678

: 00:37:43

dive into super oxide dismutase as well.

679

: 00:37:45

You have the beauty bits, right.

680

: 00:37:47

And like, there's a whole portion of that.

681

: 00:37:49

And, uh, obviously beauty is like

typically a sign or, well, Beauty and

682

: 00:37:55

like anti aging kind of go hand in hand.

683

: 00:37:57

But, uh, yeah, what are some of the

properties of spirulina and chlorella when

684

: 00:38:01

it comes to longevity and anti aging or

at least slowing down the aging process?

685

: 00:38:07

I know superoxide dismutase

is going to be in there.

686

: 00:38:10

Catharine: Oh, totally.

687

: 00:38:11

To me, it's the rock star, but

of course, just like phycocyanin,

688

: 00:38:15

people don't know about it, but

if I do my job right, they will.

689

: 00:38:19

So what's the deal with longevity?

690

: 00:38:22

Well, um, our nature, our body, our

biology thinks we're going to die at

691

: 00:38:29

30 because we've been on earth for 2

million years and only in the last 150

692

: 00:38:34

years have we lived longer than 30.

693

: 00:38:37

And so this explains why For women and

men, our hormones start slowing down in

694

: 00:38:43

production at 30, you get to perimenopause

and then you hit menopause and I'm

695

: 00:38:49

way past menopause, by the way, but

also as you get older, melatonin slows

696

: 00:38:53

down in its production, which is why

older people have a hard time sleeping.

697

: 00:38:57

There's just a lot that slows

down because our biology still

698

: 00:39:02

thinks we're going to die at 30.

699

: 00:39:04

So it says, why do I need

to make all this stuff?

700

: 00:39:05

You know, you're out of here.

701

: 00:39:07

But we aren't out of here.

702

: 00:39:08

And so most disease and chronic

illness kicks in at the age of

703

: 00:39:13

40, because that's the, that's

where the rubber hits the road.

704

: 00:39:16

That's the dividing line where your body

has stopped all this, the prevention of

705

: 00:39:22

all these, creating all these, things

that have been preventing disease.

706

: 00:39:26

And by the time you hit 40 you've

been around for a long time.

707

: 00:39:30

You've been accumulating toxins.

708

: 00:39:32

So this is that perfect storm

where at 40 and after the toxicity

709

: 00:39:38

level is just through the roof.

710

: 00:39:39

The average adult in America

now has 700 toxins in them

711

: 00:39:42

and your defense mechanisms.

712

: 00:39:45

that you had all of your

life are basically gone.

713

: 00:39:49

And one of them, which again, you

don't know much about, but you will

714

: 00:39:52

hopefully soon, is this antioxidant

called superoxide dismutase.

715

: 00:39:56

And what is so special about this?

716

: 00:39:59

Well, it is the most powerful

antioxidant that stops free

717

: 00:40:04

radical damage in the mitochondria.

718

: 00:40:07

And what, and so what's going on, as

I mentioned earlier, in that electron

719

: 00:40:12

transport chain, you have the, these

molecules where the electrons are

720

: 00:40:17

passed from one, one to the other.

721

: 00:40:19

Here's another picture of them.

722

: 00:40:21

Okay.

723

: 00:40:21

Here's those molecules, a little

hyper molecule, cytochrome C.

724

: 00:40:24

And when they're close together like that,

uh, the past, just like Tom, Tom Brady

725

: 00:40:28

can make a pass or the runners in the

marathon, um, in the right race can pass

726

: 00:40:34

the electrons quickly and you get ATP.

727

: 00:40:36

Happy day, right?

728

: 00:40:38

However, as you get older and you

have less of this, uh, superoxy

729

: 00:40:43

dismutase, which protects your

mitochondria from, from free radical

730

: 00:40:46

damage, because a byproduct of

all that ATP is free radicals.

731

: 00:40:50

What happens is your

mitochondria start to expand.

732

: 00:40:54

Now those little molecules that

are supposed to be nice and

733

: 00:40:57

tight to one another are, are

further apart from one another.

734

: 00:41:01

So two things happen.

735

: 00:41:03

They can't make the pass,

so they can't generate.

736

: 00:41:07

ATP, because they can't pass the

electrons from one to another, so

737

: 00:41:11

they, the electrons leak out, so that

you have less, the result is less

738

: 00:41:16

energy to do anything, including heal

or protect yourself from anything.

739

: 00:41:22

The other problem is when they

leak out, they don't disappear,

740

: 00:41:25

they just become free radicals.

741

: 00:41:27

So as your mitochondria get more damaged

and they do become more damaged as you

742

: 00:41:32

get older and they die as you get older,

you, this cycle continues because you get

743

: 00:41:37

more and more damaged mitochondria, which

are further, so the molecules are further

744

: 00:41:41

and further apart from one another.

745

: 00:41:42

Here's a picture of a

healthy mitochondria.

746

: 00:41:45

Here's one with all those gaps in

the middle because that's where

747

: 00:41:47

all the damage has occurred.

748

: 00:41:49

And the damage is mostly occurring

from a free radical called superoxide.

749

: 00:41:56

If you know anything about free

radicals, you know it's a molecule

750

: 00:41:59

that has an unpaired electron,

and so nature seeks balance.

751

: 00:42:02

So it will steal an electron from the

neighboring molecule, which then makes it

752

: 00:42:05

unbalanced, and you have tissue damage.

753

: 00:42:07

And then it steals one, and then

it's, this is where damage occurs.

754

: 00:42:10

But these good guys called

antioxidants have extra electrons.

755

: 00:42:14

to donate.

756

: 00:42:16

And so normally that's what

happens when blueberries are

757

: 00:42:18

known to be high in antioxidants.

758

: 00:42:20

But those antioxidants that normally

work in the rest of your body can't

759

: 00:42:24

get into the mitochondria because

there's that inner membrane that

760

: 00:42:29

prevents them from getting in.

761

: 00:42:30

And the ones that can get into that

inner membrane are all in algae.

762

: 00:42:35

The main one is this thing

called super oxide dismutase.

763

: 00:42:38

The most damaging free

radical is called super oxide.

764

: 00:42:41

Why is it so damaging?

765

: 00:42:43

Most free radicals have

one unpaired electron.

766

: 00:42:47

Superoxide has three unpaired electrons.

767

: 00:42:50

So it's three times as damaging

and it's only in the mitochondria.

768

: 00:42:55

So this thing called superoxide

dismutase dismutase means to dim is

769

: 00:42:59

what dims the superoxide deactivates it

and converts it into water and oxygen.

770

: 00:43:07

It's like a fireman.

771

: 00:43:10

You've got a fire.

772

: 00:43:11

Free radicals basically.

773

: 00:43:13

are burning up your mitochondria, right?

774

: 00:43:17

And so it happens automatically.

775

: 00:43:19

If you have ATP, it's

just part of the process.

776

: 00:43:21

And up until then, you had this stuff

until 30 or 40, you had superoxidase,

777

: 00:43:26

which was hosing down the free

radicals so they wouldn't get damaged.

778

: 00:43:32

The, the firemen are gone.

779

: 00:43:34

So when you take spirulina, it has

the highest concentration of spirit

780

: 00:43:38

of superoxygenase in the world.

781

: 00:43:40

So it's like getting your firemen back.

782

: 00:43:42

It automatically puts out the fire of

the superoxide, converts it to water

783

: 00:43:48

and oxygen, and mitochondria are saved.

784

: 00:43:51

And when you have more mitochondria,

you are able to protect yourself

785

: 00:43:56

from anything because you're getting

more cellular energy being generated.

786

: 00:44:00

There's more of them to generate it.

787

: 00:44:02

The ones that are generating it aren't

damaged because when they're damaged,

788

: 00:44:06

they send, they send miscellaneous energy.

789

: 00:44:08

Uh, misinformation.

790

: 00:44:09

It's like having a, your mitochondria DNA

or sort of like the air controllers at

791

: 00:44:14

an airport and when they get, if your air

controllers are all having a bad day, you

792

: 00:44:17

don't want your planes to be crashing.

793

: 00:44:19

When your mitochondria are damaged,

they're sending the wrong signals,

794

: 00:44:23

which can lead to, uh, disease, um,

dysfunctional, uh, You know, uh, brain

795

: 00:44:28

capability, it contributes to everything.

796

: 00:44:31

So keeping your mitochondria healthy is

the number one solution to longevity.

797

: 00:44:38

Number one, part of that is related to

gut biome because of course, if your

798

: 00:44:43

gut is also damaged, but that also

occurs because of, um, toxins and, uh,

799

: 00:44:48

not enough fiber for the gut biome to,

to be, um, working properly, creating

800

: 00:44:54

short chain fatty acids, but it all.

801

: 00:44:57

everything ultimately comes down to the

mitochondria and the highest amount of

802

: 00:45:01

your mitochondria are where your greatest

energy needs are because mitochondria

803

: 00:45:05

generate energy for your body.

804

: 00:45:07

Where are those?

805

: 00:45:09

The places with the highest

mitochondria are in your brain.

806

: 00:45:12

There's something like a million,

Mitochondria per cell in your brain,

807

: 00:45:17

2 million, sorry, 2 million per cell.

808

: 00:45:20

And then the next highest is actually

women's eggs, which have, I think, 800,

809

: 00:45:24

000 after, uh, after that, it's your

heart, which is about six or 7, 000.

810

: 00:45:28

And after that, your muscles, things like

your skin and your fat only have about

811

: 00:45:32

a thousand mitochondria because it's

not where a lot of, energy is required.

812

: 00:45:36

So when you take spirulina,

because spirulina is a bacteria,

813

: 00:45:41

it does not have a cellulose wall.

814

: 00:45:44

So this allows your body to get access

to the 40 vitamins and minerals, the

815

: 00:45:49

high concentration of protein, high

concentration of chlorophyll and the

816

: 00:45:52

high concentration of superoxidized

mutase, as well as the blue phycocyanin.

817

: 00:45:56

So it gets absorbed instantly

and directed to your body.

818

: 00:45:59

to the mitochondria.

819

: 00:46:01

There are 25, 000 studies documenting

how superoxidase mutates, prevents

820

: 00:46:07

heart disease, prevents Alzheimer's,

prevents dementia, prevents inflammation.

821

: 00:46:12

It's unbelievable.

822

: 00:46:13

So it's solid, solid

scientific foundation.

823

: 00:46:18

The only thing is.

824

: 00:46:20

Scientists and nobody knows that

superoxide dismutase is in the highest

825

: 00:46:24

concentration in raw spirulina.

826

: 00:46:27

Again, it has to be raw

because here's the kick.

827

: 00:46:30

Superoxide dismutase is also an enzyme.

828

: 00:46:33

It's an antioxidant,

but it's also an enzyme.

829

: 00:46:36

And any time an enzyme is exposed

to high heat over 114 degrees

830

: 00:46:41

Fahrenheit, it's deactivated.

831

: 00:46:44

So, This is why fresh spirulina

or frozen spirulina is just as

832

: 00:46:48

good for you as ours, because ours

is raw, not exposed to height.

833

: 00:46:52

This is again, why places like Hippocrates

Institute, Gershon Institute use fresh

834

: 00:46:57

and frozen spirulina for that reason.

835

: 00:46:59

Um, so you, again, you can't buy the

cheaper algae and expect it's going to

836

: 00:47:05

have all these great capabilities because

it's missing half of the good stuff.

837

: 00:47:10

Uh, it's like listening to,

you know, a soloist when.

838

: 00:47:14

You know, you could have the orchestra.

839

: 00:47:16

I'd rather listen to the orchestra and

get all these, all these great benefits.

840

: 00:47:19

So, um, these again are

all naturally there.

841

: 00:47:23

We don't put them in,

but we preserve them.

842

: 00:47:26

Whereas other people are not.

843

: 00:47:28

There is super oxidizing.

844

: 00:47:29

He's also, by the way, in

chlorella, just as a higher

845

: 00:47:32

concentrations in the spirulina.

846

: 00:47:34

And the reality is chlorella takes

an hour and a half to be absorbed

847

: 00:47:37

because it has a hard cell wall.

848

: 00:47:40

Spirulina has no cellulose wall,

so it has that rapid absorption,

849

: 00:47:45

no damage in the gut lining because

it, uh, through digestion because

850

: 00:47:49

it gets absorbed so quickly.

851

: 00:47:51

So uh, very efficient nutrition,

um, and again, this is why I call

852

: 00:47:55

it your nutritional insurance.

853

: 00:47:57

It's ensuring your health.

854

: 00:47:59

your mitochondria's health.

855

: 00:48:01

And when we go to this, to the conference,

the longevity conference, and we do a lot,

856

: 00:48:05

we're doing more and more with longevity

because longevity is very much based on

857

: 00:48:10

science and, uh, stem cells are very big.

858

: 00:48:13

Um, uh, there's lots of other sort of, um,

uh, discoveries going on with, longevity.

859

: 00:48:20

And we have the science.

860

: 00:48:21

And by the way, I don't know if I told

you, we did our first clinical trial

861

: 00:48:26

in the summer for mitochondria health.

862

: 00:48:29

Evan: Congrats Catherine.

863

: 00:48:29

That's awesome.

864

: 00:48:30

No, that's huge.

865

: 00:48:31

Sorry.

866

: 00:48:31

I got to take a moment and pause there.

867

: 00:48:32

That's huge.

868

: 00:48:33

When companies put that effort

in to me, that says so much.

869

: 00:48:37

So congratulations.

870

: 00:48:39

I know it's expensive

and it's time consuming.

871

: 00:48:42

And I appreciate you doing it.

872

: 00:48:43

Please explain.

873

: 00:48:44

Sorry.

874

: 00:48:44

I want to congratulate you.

875

: 00:48:45

It

876

: 00:48:46

Catharine: was just a mini one because

we, we needed to get something done

877

: 00:48:48

quickly in time for this conference.

878

: 00:48:50

And we're going to do a

much bigger one next year.

879

: 00:48:53

So, uh, and it was quite fortuitous

because, um, we were at Dave Asprey's

880

: 00:48:57

show in June biohack upgrade labs

and the company exhibiting beside us

881

: 00:49:03

was, is a company called MeScreen.

882

: 00:49:06

And what they've done is they've

developed a technology, a blood test.

883

: 00:49:09

You can order online.

884

: 00:49:11

MeScreen.

885

: 00:49:11

com.

886

: 00:49:12

Consumers, I encourage everybody that,

uh, tests your, um, mitochondria health.

887

: 00:49:17

Uh, it determines your ATP production

levels, the extra excess capacity

888

: 00:49:23

of your mitochondria, free radical

production, blah, blah, blah, blah.

889

: 00:49:26

So we partnered with them and we had a

group of people, half women, half men, and

890

: 00:49:30

we chose people who were over the age of

55, because 40 is when that marker hits,

891

: 00:49:36

when your mitochondria are missing the

superoxidase mutations, or pretty much

892

: 00:49:40

everybody's getting damaged mitochondria.

893

: 00:49:41

So, Those were the conditions and that

they had never taken either a greens

894

: 00:49:45

powder or an algae product beforehand.

895

: 00:49:48

So for 30 days, we gave

them just the spirulina.

896

: 00:49:52

We tested their mitochondria health

first with the MiScreen test.

897

: 00:49:56

It's a simple blood test.

898

: 00:49:57

You, mail it off to them.

899

: 00:49:59

And, and their lab, by the

way, is in University of

900

: 00:50:02

Southern California, San Diego.

901

: 00:50:04

And their head scientist, uh, PhD

is a gentleman by the name of Dr.

902

: 00:50:08

Hemal Patel.

903

: 00:50:10

And he is the scientist that does

all of the brain, uh, studies for Dr.

904

: 00:50:15

Joe Dispenza.

905

: 00:50:16

So he and his brain test trust,

he has a brain trust in his lab.

906

: 00:50:19

So we had great people.

907

: 00:50:22

Right.

908

: 00:50:22

You know, overseeing and

running our tests for us.

909

: 00:50:24

So we did one me screen to set the

base level, gave people the spirulina.

910

: 00:50:30

Seven days later, we gave them

another me screen test, sent the

911

: 00:50:35

blood test, and then they continued

for the rest of the 30 days.

912

: 00:50:38

I only have the seven day results.

913

: 00:50:41

I'm getting the rest of the results this

week, in fact, because we're getting

914

: 00:50:44

a scientific paper written up, a case

study and all that sort of stuff.

915

: 00:50:48

And the best quote I can tell you that

came from Hemel, uh, when he looked at the

916

: 00:50:53

numbers because it showed that there was,

um, the inflammation level had dropped

917

: 00:50:57

and the production of ATP had improved and

the capacity of the mitochondria improved,

918

: 00:51:01

which means there's more capability.

919

: 00:51:04

The quote was that the only time

he'd seen such great results

920

: 00:51:08

was in another clinical study.

921

: 00:51:10

They had done early in the year,

uh, with, uh, uh, intermittent

922

: 00:51:14

fasting and it took 90 days of, uh,

to achieve the same mitochondria

923

: 00:51:21

improvements that were achieved in

seven days of taking the spirulina

924

: 00:51:26

and that's a direct quote from him.

925

: 00:51:29

So, um, uh, so I was pretty happy and,

and you also, you don't usually get.

926

: 00:51:34

That rapid change and that's why

we're going to do it for longer

927

: 00:51:38

next time, maybe do two months.

928

: 00:51:40

Um, so we can, because I don't want,

you know, I'm, I'm looking for science

929

: 00:51:44

and I need to know, you know, what's

really going on and what's being

930

: 00:51:47

measured, but they are the first company

that's been able to develop this.

931

: 00:51:51

And we're going to take a look at

how we can skill this capability

932

: 00:51:52

to measure the mitochondria.

933

: 00:51:55

Um, because that's, that's where all

the action is, is the mitochondria

934

: 00:51:58

and the mitochondrial DNA.

935

: 00:52:00

So, um, so I was really happy and,

and, you know, I oversaw the clinical

936

: 00:52:04

trial and wrote the parameters

and, and, uh, we're going to,

937

: 00:52:08

we'll see them all at A4M as well.

938

: 00:52:10

Hopefully him all come to our booth

and talk a little bit about it.

939

: 00:52:12

So we'll have more, hopefully

we'll have the paper written to

940

: 00:52:15

share, um, by then and then we'll

do a much larger one next year.

941

: 00:52:20

Evan: Share it.

942

: 00:52:21

Please share any of your findings with me.

943

: 00:52:23

Email it to me.

944

: 00:52:24

I want to, I want to be one of

the first people to see this.

945

: 00:52:27

This is so.

946

: 00:52:28

So cool and intriguing to me.

947

: 00:52:30

Um, uh, I wanted to, we covered

a few different things here that

948

: 00:52:34

I wanted to kind of reel back on.

949

: 00:52:36

One of them was, uh, how you had

mentioned with the mitochondrial health.

950

: 00:52:39

So I don't intermittent fasting kind

of one of the methods in which it

951

: 00:52:42

improves the mitochondria is through

essentially you're no longer, you're kind

952

: 00:52:49

of getting yourself more fat adapted.

953

: 00:52:50

Right?

954

: 00:52:51

And so the mitochondria, um, they tend

to go through this phase where, uh, it's,

955

: 00:52:57

essentially getting cleaned out and you

know, if they're dysfunctioning or they

956

: 00:53:01

have broken parts, they kind of just get.

957

: 00:53:04

put aside, you know, processed all that.

958

: 00:53:06

And then, uh, new mitochondria are

created essentially through that process.

959

: 00:53:10

And that's kind of how you kind of

renew your mitochondria through,

960

: 00:53:14

uh, fasting or intermittent fasting.

961

: 00:53:16

Uh, so for the spirulina or, or

chlorella, which I'm guessing it's

962

: 00:53:20

spirulina here in this case, but, um,

that would in what, what manner were they

963

: 00:53:26

achieving that same level of benefit?

964

: 00:53:29

Was it through processing out

the mitochondria or just like

965

: 00:53:32

actually healing them up?

966

: 00:53:34

Catharine: Well, lots of things.

967

: 00:53:35

So first of all, when you're intermittent

fasting, you're not eating, you're

968

: 00:53:39

eating in a very small window.

969

: 00:53:41

Um, and if you're keto, that's even

better because there's two things, the

970

: 00:53:46

mitochondria, remember that, that little,

you know, electron transport chain that

971

: 00:53:49

I showed you where, um, the electrons are

being passed from, from one to the next.

972

: 00:53:55

Okay.

973

: 00:53:56

Now, if they, as they get further

and further apart from one

974

: 00:53:59

another, because they're damaged,

the mitochondria is damaged.

975

: 00:54:02

Okay.

976

: 00:54:02

More of the electrons escape

and turn into free radicals,

977

: 00:54:06

which damage the mitochondria.

978

: 00:54:08

Um, and the other problem is carbs

create more free radicals than,

979

: 00:54:15

um, than, uh, fat or protein.

980

: 00:54:18

And algae has zero carbs.

981

: 00:54:21

So it has the same effect of a few.

982

: 00:54:24

Efficiency as intermittent fasting because

you're not getting an overload of carbs.

983

: 00:54:29

I have this I'm, not sure if people

have seen this because i'm older than

984

: 00:54:33

you are, but there was this great.

985

: 00:54:34

Um, lucille ball Episode and

they people use it sometimes

986

: 00:54:38

and she's on this conveyor belt.

987

: 00:54:40

I think she's making chocolates

or something and the conveyor belt

988

: 00:54:44

moves, she can't keep up with it.

989

: 00:54:45

So she starts shoving the

chocolates in her mouth and

990

: 00:54:48

they're falling all over the place.

991

: 00:54:50

That's what happens

here when you eat carbs.

992

: 00:54:53

Your, your electron transport chain can't

keep up with all of these Um, carbs, and

993

: 00:54:59

so it just spills out into free radicals.

994

: 00:55:03

You're just killing, carbs

are killing your mitochondria.

995

: 00:55:07

No other way to tell, processed

carbs, you know, there's fiber

996

: 00:55:10

carbs, which are good for you.

997

: 00:55:12

Processed carbs are

killing your mitochondria.

998

: 00:55:14

No other way to tell you that.

999

: 00:55:16

So when you reduce the carbs and also

you reduce the period of time that

: 1000

00:55:22,074 --> 00:55:25,494

if you are eating carbs, that they're

being exposed to your mitochondria.

: 1001

00:55:26,414 --> 00:55:27,374

This allows them to.

: 1002

00:55:27,779 --> 00:55:29,209

keep up with the process.

: 1003

00:55:29,379 --> 00:55:32,813

It allows them to go through

a process called autophagy,

: 1004

00:55:32,813 --> 00:55:34,326

Evan: which

: 1005

00:55:34,326 --> 00:55:36,409

Catharine: is cleaning up.

: 1006

00:55:36,419 --> 00:55:37,959

So there's two processes

in your mitochondria.

: 1007

00:55:38,009 --> 00:55:42,789

One is called apoptosis, which is the cell

healthy cell death, where the cell goes.

: 1008

00:55:43,469 --> 00:55:44,539

It's been a great ride.

: 1009

00:55:44,629 --> 00:55:45,369

I'm retiring.

: 1010

00:55:45,369 --> 00:55:46,009

I'm out of here.

: 1011

00:55:46,049 --> 00:55:49,129

Take all my good DNA

and put it to good work.

: 1012

00:55:49,189 --> 00:55:50,779

You know, Good luck, goodbye.

: 1013

00:55:51,169 --> 00:55:54,219

Uh, and the other one is

autophagy, which the, you know,

: 1014

00:55:54,229 --> 00:55:55,969

the cell just cleans itself up.

: 1015

00:55:56,229 --> 00:55:57,639

That's like spring cleaning.

: 1016

00:55:57,889 --> 00:56:01,709

If you don't, or, you know, if anyone

has a teenager at home, they don't like

: 1017

00:56:01,709 --> 00:56:04,599

to clean up their room and eventually

it gets so bad, you know, whatever.

: 1018

00:56:04,899 --> 00:56:08,119

So think of having teenagers

in your, in your mitochondria,

: 1019

00:56:08,119 --> 00:56:09,389

leaving a big mess everywhere.

: 1020

00:56:09,389 --> 00:56:13,574

And if you don't give the

cell a break by, intermittent

: 1021

00:56:13,574 --> 00:56:15,164

fasting, which allows it to go.

: 1022

00:56:15,174 --> 00:56:18,384

Okay, finally, I got

some time to clean up.

: 1023

00:56:18,804 --> 00:56:20,534

All right, I'm cleaned up now.

: 1024

00:56:20,684 --> 00:56:21,584

Oh, I feel better.

: 1025

00:56:21,754 --> 00:56:24,234

Oh, I can make more ATP

because I'm feeling better.

: 1026

00:56:24,724 --> 00:56:26,034

That's what autophagy does.

: 1027

00:56:26,034 --> 00:56:27,594

And so you get through the top.

: 1028

00:56:27,594 --> 00:56:32,704

So the spirulina, because

there's zero carbs, also has

: 1029

00:56:32,704 --> 00:56:35,334

that cleanup effect of autophagy.

: 1030

00:56:35,604 --> 00:56:38,964

And because it has zero

carbs, it's very efficient.

: 1031

00:56:39,214 --> 00:56:44,134

Um, and it stimulates either speeding

up the process because of the blue

: 1032

00:56:44,144 --> 00:56:49,124

phycocyanin, so you get more ATP

produced, so the body has more

: 1033

00:56:49,364 --> 00:56:54,884

cellular energy to heal, to heal

itself, to heal the mitochondria, to

: 1034

00:56:54,884 --> 00:56:58,944

heal your brain, to heal your gut,

because it's been more efficient.

: 1035

00:56:59,244 --> 00:57:05,044

Also, there's superoxidizimutase,

which is, I refer to superoxidizimutase

: 1036

00:57:05,044 --> 00:57:06,414

as a big golf umbrella.

: 1037

00:57:07,234 --> 00:57:09,454

You can't stop the rain

of the free radicals.

: 1038

00:57:09,454 --> 00:57:10,134

They're going to be there.

: 1039

00:57:10,144 --> 00:57:12,844

If you do reduce your carbs,

you'll have fewer of them,

: 1040

00:57:13,064 --> 00:57:14,594

but the rain is already there.

: 1041

00:57:15,074 --> 00:57:17,564

Superoxidizumabase is like

having a big gulf umbrella.

: 1042

00:57:17,854 --> 00:57:21,674

It's protecting the mitochondria

from damage of the free radicals.

: 1043

00:57:22,024 --> 00:57:25,134

But after 40, you don't have

that big gulf umbrella anymore.

: 1044

00:57:25,144 --> 00:57:27,544

You're just, you're exposed

to all the free radicals.

: 1045

00:57:28,184 --> 00:57:31,324

Superoxidizumabase in the

spirulina can be very, gives your

: 1046

00:57:31,334 --> 00:57:33,874

mitochondria back the gulf umbrella.

: 1047

00:57:34,384 --> 00:57:37,944

The free radicals are still happening, but

they're not, but they're being converted.

: 1048

00:57:37,944 --> 00:57:40,844

They're being neutralized

into oxygen and water.

: 1049

00:57:41,114 --> 00:57:43,294

So it's like, it's

protecting the mitochondria.

: 1050

00:57:43,314 --> 00:57:45,564

So now they can heal.

: 1051

00:57:45,794 --> 00:57:48,229

They can produce more energy.

: 1052

00:57:48,419 --> 00:57:50,039

They're producing more oxygen.

: 1053

00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:52,259

They're keeping the alkalinity.

: 1054

00:57:52,259 --> 00:57:53,639

Everything is working better.

: 1055

00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:56,639

It's just there's there's

the autophagy cleaned it up.

: 1056

00:57:56,899 --> 00:58:01,749

The apoptosis got rid of any, you

know, senescent cells or which are

: 1057

00:58:01,749 --> 00:58:06,389

inflammatory or cancer cells, which

are, you know, deadly, sucking

: 1058

00:58:06,409 --> 00:58:08,349

up energy that your body wants.

: 1059

00:58:08,449 --> 00:58:13,949

to what otherwise used to, uh, think

better, move better, heal better.

: 1060

00:58:14,169 --> 00:58:20,799

So it's this cascade of effects

that can't be, um, can't be

: 1061

00:58:20,799 --> 00:58:22,709

attributed to one isolated thing.

: 1062

00:58:22,989 --> 00:58:28,159

This is the beauty of food in general

and spirulina in particular, which is

: 1063

00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:34,459

food because there are, Um, um, uh,

lots of up leveling going on from the

: 1064

00:58:34,459 --> 00:58:37,769

factors and cofactors and enzymes and

coins and phytonutrients and nutrients.

: 1065

00:58:38,019 --> 00:58:43,719

It just, it just is, the results

are mind blowing and they're done

: 1066

00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:45,909

naturally, not a drug, right?

: 1067

00:58:46,359 --> 00:58:51,419

If a drug company could replicate this,

uh, it'd be like GLP one be blockbuster.

: 1068

00:58:51,729 --> 00:58:55,239

Um, so, and by the way,

if anyone is on GOP one P.

: 1069

00:58:55,239 --> 00:58:55,319

O.

: 1070

00:58:55,319 --> 00:59:00,629

One, please, which they're finding

has great anti inflammatory benefits.

: 1071

00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:04,639

So I don't want to be beating up on GLP

one because there's lots of other benefits

: 1072

00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:07,849

beyond the weight and also excess weight.

: 1073

00:59:08,254 --> 00:59:09,164

inflammatory.

: 1074

00:59:09,594 --> 00:59:10,164

We need.

: 1075

00:59:10,334 --> 00:59:15,474

So, so, but if you are on the GOP one, the

reality is you're not eating or you're not

: 1076

00:59:15,494 --> 00:59:20,984

eating much and your cells constantly need

to be fed and they need to be fed proteins

: 1077

00:59:21,204 --> 00:59:25,244

because not only protein to build your

muscle and your, uh, your brain and stuff,

: 1078

00:59:25,504 --> 00:59:28,684

there are folded proteins inside your DNA.

: 1079

00:59:28,684 --> 00:59:33,034

And if they need the amino

acids to to be able to fold

: 1080

00:59:33,054 --> 00:59:35,534

properly and and work properly.

: 1081

00:59:35,534 --> 00:59:38,754

So there's more than what meets

the eye on the protein thing.

: 1082

00:59:39,084 --> 00:59:43,264

So when you're on a GLP one, you're not

eating, you're probably not getting enough

: 1083

00:59:43,264 --> 00:59:47,694

amino acids, you're going to lose muscle

mass, and you're going to have some deeper

: 1084

00:59:47,814 --> 00:59:49,894

health issues if you don't eat enough.

: 1085

00:59:49,894 --> 00:59:53,604

provide your body with

the aminos that they need.

: 1086

00:59:53,834 --> 00:59:56,514

And so spirulina has 19 of the 20 aminos.

: 1087

00:59:56,824 --> 00:59:59,624

So does chlorella, um, including

the nine, as you mentioned

: 1088

00:59:59,624 --> 01:00:01,164

earlier, that your body can't make.

: 1089

01:00:01,164 --> 01:00:05,154

So just do yourself a favor if you're

on a GLP 1 or even if you want the

: 1090

01:00:05,154 --> 01:00:09,134

benefits without taking the GLP 1

because spirulina satisfies your hunger.

: 1091

01:00:09,414 --> 01:00:13,174

It's great for intermittent fasting,

zero carbs, one calorie per tablet.

: 1092

01:00:13,184 --> 01:00:14,344

You could have 30 for lunch.

: 1093

01:00:14,514 --> 01:00:18,344

You wouldn't be hungry for 30 for

three or four hours for 30 calories.

: 1094

01:00:18,724 --> 01:00:23,424

Um, but it has all these other healing

properties that trump anything on, on

: 1095

01:00:23,424 --> 01:00:26,464

top and over the weight loss benefits.

: 1096

01:00:26,814 --> 01:00:27,214

Yeah.

: 1097

01:00:27,874 --> 01:00:28,204

Evan: Yeah.

: 1098

01:00:28,254 --> 01:00:31,584

The, and so you're actually

kind of leading me to a few.

: 1099

01:00:32,584 --> 01:00:38,424

You, uh, questions we received on

YouTube from our videos, uh, which,

: 1100

01:00:38,444 --> 01:00:42,974

if, yeah, if you're happy, I would,

I would love to, uh, ask you, okay.

: 1101

01:00:43,184 --> 01:00:48,144

So the first one, and you just mentioned

right now is if you had 30, uh, 30 of

: 1102

01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:52,514

the energy bits tablets that it would

be, you know, 30 calories and last you

: 1103

01:00:52,524 --> 01:00:56,114

for, you know, three or four hours in

terms of in those hunger cravings, a

: 1104

01:00:56,114 --> 01:01:01,984

person asked how many, uh, spirulina or

chlorella tablets could you take in a day?

: 1105

01:01:02,204 --> 01:01:02,994

Uh, which.

: 1106

01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:07,249

I'll, I have my answer, but I'm going

to let you go ahead and jump in on here.

: 1107

01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:07,939

Catharine: Sure.

: 1108

01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:09,389

Unlimited.

: 1109

01:01:09,459 --> 01:01:14,149

You know, if you ate a thousand, you would

have diarrhea and we've had people write

: 1110

01:01:14,149 --> 01:01:18,549

us how their, you know, lap dog who loves

the tablets jumped up on the counter and

: 1111

01:01:18,549 --> 01:01:20,089

ate a full bag of a thousand tablets.

: 1112

01:01:20,089 --> 01:01:21,169

And they called us in a panic.

: 1113

01:01:21,169 --> 01:01:21,709

Well, they die.

: 1114

01:01:21,709 --> 01:01:23,389

And I said, no, those probably

throw up and they'll poop a

: 1115

01:01:23,389 --> 01:01:24,369

little bit, but they'll be fine.

: 1116

01:01:24,729 --> 01:01:31,269

So if a small lap dog can eat a thousand

tablets and survive fine with just a

: 1117

01:01:31,269 --> 01:01:34,329

little, you know, diarrhea, it's food.

: 1118

01:01:34,539 --> 01:01:36,869

It's like, could you die

from eating a small lap dog?

: 1119

01:01:37,019 --> 01:01:37,959

large salad?

: 1120

01:01:37,989 --> 01:01:38,529

No.

: 1121

01:01:38,819 --> 01:01:44,199

Uh, or I see these hot dog competitions

at farms and, you know, somebody's eating

: 1122

01:01:44,199 --> 01:01:45,959

like that's not, I'm not recommending it.

: 1123

01:01:45,959 --> 01:01:46,369

Trust me.

: 1124

01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:49,029

I don't even, I would never

touch a hot dog in my life.

: 1125

01:01:49,049 --> 01:01:51,079

Um, but the point is it's food.

: 1126

01:01:51,289 --> 01:01:54,649

So, but the better question

is how many do you need?

: 1127

01:01:55,009 --> 01:02:00,969

And my suggested, uh, recommendation is

for, for filling nutritional gaps and

: 1128

01:02:00,969 --> 01:02:05,449

for maintenance purposes, 10 spirulina

in the morning or afternoon and 10

: 1129

01:02:05,449 --> 01:02:07,759

chlorella at night is sufficient.

: 1130

01:02:08,089 --> 01:02:12,389

Um, because, uh, and by the way, it

will replace many of your supplements.

: 1131

01:02:12,399 --> 01:02:13,949

It can certainly replace a fish oil.

: 1132

01:02:13,949 --> 01:02:15,189

Please stop taking fish oil.

: 1133

01:02:15,449 --> 01:02:17,709

I also suggest people stop

eating kale because it's got

: 1134

01:02:17,709 --> 01:02:19,029

so many lectins and oxalates.

: 1135

01:02:19,319 --> 01:02:22,689

Um, and it's carnivores, fish

oil, friendly, no lectins or

: 1136

01:02:22,689 --> 01:02:24,429

oxalates in any of the algae.

: 1137

01:02:24,739 --> 01:02:29,379

Um, so it can replace a multivitamin,

a CoQ10, so it can replace stuff.

: 1138

01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:31,269

So 10 is plenty.

: 1139

01:02:31,489 --> 01:02:35,969

Um, mind you, if you want to correct

something, if you, or prevent

: 1140

01:02:35,979 --> 01:02:41,379

something, 30, which is what's in a

pouch, is what, uh, is a better thing.

: 1141

01:02:41,559 --> 01:02:43,729

um, medicinal quantity.

: 1142

01:02:44,009 --> 01:02:48,889

Um, so this would be 10 spirulina in

the morning for maintenance and 10

: 1143

01:02:48,889 --> 01:02:53,949

chlorella would give your immune health

a boost because it has high chlorophyll.

: 1144

01:02:54,149 --> 01:02:57,369

It's, um, it's got lots of

other phytonutrients, K2, which

: 1145

01:02:57,369 --> 01:02:59,629

moves excess calcium out of

soft tissue into your bones.

: 1146

01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:06,769

Um, but for protection and correction,

um, of any kind, whether you want to

: 1147

01:03:06,769 --> 01:03:09,869

lose weight, you were going to do a

great run, you want a great workout.

: 1148

01:03:09,869 --> 01:03:15,689

If you're an athlete, 30 spirulina

is a better number and 30 chlorella

: 1149

01:03:15,709 --> 01:03:17,479

before bed is a better number.

: 1150

01:03:17,479 --> 01:03:20,549

And the reason why we recommend

the chlorella before bed is

: 1151

01:03:20,579 --> 01:03:23,369

because that's when your body

goes through a detox repair cycle.

: 1152

01:03:23,749 --> 01:03:26,659

So chlorella has something

called chlorella growth factor.

: 1153

01:03:26,869 --> 01:03:29,669

growth factor that speeds

up the growth of your cells.

: 1154

01:03:29,909 --> 01:03:33,999

It has a hard cell wall that pulls

out toxins of any kind, lead, mercury,

: 1155

01:03:33,999 --> 01:03:38,529

radiation, aluminum, alcohol, lactic

acid, but it needs enough juice

: 1156

01:03:38,929 --> 01:03:41,079

to, uh, well, power to pull it out.

: 1157

01:03:41,099 --> 01:03:45,729

And if ten won't do it, so if you

wanted to have a detox benefit.

: 1158

01:03:45,729 --> 01:03:47,589

10 or 30.

: 1159

01:03:47,629 --> 01:03:48,809

Chlorella is what you need.

: 1160

01:03:49,319 --> 01:03:53,769

Also, chlorella stimulates what's known

as peristalsis, which is a bowel movement.

: 1161

01:03:54,038 --> 01:03:57,369

A lot of people eat fiber,

sell, sell them husk because,

: 1162

01:03:57,389 --> 01:03:58,889

um, they don't like vegetables.

: 1163

01:03:58,889 --> 01:04:02,634

And so they, they, they need, And

if you're eating, if you're on any

: 1164

01:04:02,634 --> 01:04:06,324

medication or you're eating dairy or

processed foods, you're traveling,

: 1165

01:04:06,324 --> 01:04:09,264

you're stressed, I can almost promise

you, you're, you're, you're constipated.

: 1166

01:04:09,634 --> 01:04:10,744

This will resolve it.

: 1167

01:04:10,744 --> 01:04:14,284

And sometimes if this has got too

much protein and you're feeling

: 1168

01:04:14,284 --> 01:04:17,114

some constipation, drink more

water and definitely add chlorella.

: 1169

01:04:17,444 --> 01:04:21,274

This will stimulate what I call, uh,

getting rid of the junk in your trunk.

: 1170

01:04:21,544 --> 01:04:24,204

Um, because if you don't get rid of

what's sitting in your colon, which

: 1171

01:04:24,204 --> 01:04:28,084

is stuff your body didn't want, it's

like having a, garbage truck parked

: 1172

01:04:28,084 --> 01:04:29,434

in front of your house permanently.

: 1173

01:04:29,744 --> 01:04:31,274

You want to get rid of that stuff.

: 1174

01:04:31,784 --> 01:04:32,244

Okay.

: 1175

01:04:32,464 --> 01:04:35,224

So, but so 30 and 30 is medicinal.

: 1176

01:04:35,244 --> 01:04:38,334

Now you can have way more than that.

: 1177

01:04:38,574 --> 01:04:44,244

We have NHL players that put 75 spirulina

in their smoothies, the Detroit red

: 1178

01:04:44,244 --> 01:04:46,094

rings, for example, before a game.

: 1179

01:04:46,104 --> 01:04:48,514

And they put 75 chlorella

in their smoothie.

: 1180

01:04:49,049 --> 01:04:49,699

after a game.

: 1181

01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:51,799

Now they're professionals.

: 1182

01:04:52,038 --> 01:04:54,889

They need focus and speed on the ice.

: 1183

01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:57,779

And so they want everything that's

going to give them the edge.

: 1184

01:04:57,809 --> 01:04:59,989

And this does it same with chlorella.

: 1185

01:05:00,019 --> 01:05:02,209

They want to get rid of that lactic acid.

: 1186

01:05:02,209 --> 01:05:03,999

They want to make sure their

immune system is strong.

: 1187

01:05:03,999 --> 01:05:05,489

So they're not going to

get sick and miss a game.

: 1188

01:05:05,749 --> 01:05:06,689

This will do it.

: 1189

01:05:06,909 --> 01:05:11,969

So they're doing 75 and 75, but, and

honestly, I have even more of that.

: 1190

01:05:13,309 --> 01:05:18,419

And I have for 15 years and

I missed a day in 15 years.

: 1191

01:05:18,429 --> 01:05:20,379

And I don't know what I eat real food.

: 1192

01:05:20,379 --> 01:05:21,469

I do intermittent fasting.

: 1193

01:05:21,469 --> 01:05:23,929

I pretty much eat one day, one meal a day.

: 1194

01:05:24,179 --> 01:05:26,679

Um, so I'm in a really small window.

: 1195

01:05:26,859 --> 01:05:27,629

I feel great.

: 1196

01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:28,419

I sleep great.

: 1197

01:05:28,579 --> 01:05:29,329

I think great.

: 1198

01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:30,269

I move great.

: 1199

01:05:30,299 --> 01:05:31,019

I poop great.

: 1200

01:05:31,329 --> 01:05:33,069

And for my age, it's remarkable.

: 1201

01:05:33,079 --> 01:05:34,169

I have no medications.

: 1202

01:05:34,169 --> 01:05:35,199

I take no other medication.

: 1203

01:05:35,288 --> 01:05:36,349

No other supplements.

: 1204

01:05:36,349 --> 01:05:39,089

I have no health issues, not one.

: 1205

01:05:39,288 --> 01:05:41,909

I met Brian Johnson last weekend.

: 1206

01:05:42,038 --> 01:05:46,899

He's the guy who, uh, for all the

news about he's spending 5 million

: 1207

01:05:46,899 --> 01:05:51,354

or 2 million a year on all these

blood tests and whatever to, knock

: 1208

01:05:51,354 --> 01:05:53,304

a few years off his biological age.

: 1209

01:05:53,314 --> 01:05:54,514

I think he's 48.

: 1210

01:05:54,584 --> 01:05:56,064

biological age is 42.

: 1211

01:05:56,434 --> 01:06:01,744

Um, well, I have the, I, the equivalent

of, uh, at least one of these a day,

: 1212

01:06:01,854 --> 01:06:05,584

which would cost you, if you take 30,

that would be, if you bought it in

: 1213

01:06:05,594 --> 01:06:07,624

the bag format, that would be 3 a day.

: 1214

01:06:07,624 --> 01:06:12,394

But anyways, I, I've knocked 30

years off my biological age, 30

: 1215

01:06:12,684 --> 01:06:15,784

for 3 a day of spirulina and 3.

: 1216

01:06:15,834 --> 01:06:19,314

Now I'm suggesting you take

10, which is a dollar a day.

: 1217

01:06:19,659 --> 01:06:24,819

10 spirulina, 10 chlorella, so

that's 2, but if you only could

: 1218

01:06:24,819 --> 01:06:30,029

choose one, I'm, I usually defer

to spirulina because it's absorbed.

: 1219

01:06:30,038 --> 01:06:31,089

You will feel it.

: 1220

01:06:31,479 --> 01:06:32,489

You don't have to wait weeks.

: 1221

01:06:32,489 --> 01:06:33,219

You don't have to even wait days.

: 1222

01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:39,769

If you don't feel anything, a slight

improvement in focus or energy after half

: 1223

01:06:39,769 --> 01:06:41,419

an hour, you just didn't take enough.

: 1224

01:06:41,429 --> 01:06:47,589

So take more with chlorella because it's

a wellness preventative kind of algae,

: 1225

01:06:47,609 --> 01:06:49,279

not really noticing quite as much.

: 1226

01:06:49,288 --> 01:06:49,959

So you might not.

: 1227

01:06:49,974 --> 01:06:53,694

Be, um, you might not have muscle

fatigue after a workout and you

: 1228

01:06:53,694 --> 01:06:56,754

certainly will be sober after an hour

and a half if you have any alcohol.

: 1229

01:06:56,754 --> 01:07:01,344

But for spirulina across the board,

absolutely everybody feels something.

: 1230

01:07:01,614 --> 01:07:04,854

Uh, you can give this to your

children, to your pets for children.

: 1231

01:07:04,854 --> 01:07:07,134

Give them half a a tablet for their age.

: 1232

01:07:07,134 --> 01:07:08,663

So their 10, give them a a five.

: 1233

01:07:08,663 --> 01:07:10,194

I was just on a podcast today with.

: 1234

01:07:10,574 --> 01:07:16,094

Um, some coaches who coach kids and

they all gave them to their kids and the

: 1235

01:07:16,094 --> 01:07:18,104

kids had the best games and best focus.

: 1236

01:07:18,104 --> 01:07:23,064

No caffeine, no chemicals, no sugar, no

nothing, just a hundred percent nutrition.

: 1237

01:07:23,413 --> 01:07:25,984

Um, so, uh, so we know

it works really well.

: 1238

01:07:25,984 --> 01:07:26,334

So,

: 1239

01:07:26,814 --> 01:07:27,184

Evan: yeah.

: 1240

01:07:27,344 --> 01:07:27,604

No.

: 1241

01:07:27,744 --> 01:07:31,704

And thank you for mentioning the

detoxifying properties of chlorella.

: 1242

01:07:31,744 --> 01:07:33,864

That's one of my big

purposes for taking it.

: 1243

01:07:34,174 --> 01:07:39,314

Uh, especially if any, if there is

any occasion with alcohol, For sure

: 1244

01:07:39,344 --> 01:07:45,114

that, uh, you know, uh, uh, charcoal,

uh, activated charcoals on the list,

: 1245

01:07:45,144 --> 01:07:48,114

glutathione like those all three

yeah, are making it into there.

: 1246

01:07:48,204 --> 01:07:48,954

Um, chlorella,

: 1247

01:07:49,014 --> 01:07:51,114

Catharine: by the way, has the

highest glutathione in the world,

: 1248

01:07:51,114 --> 01:07:54,714

so lots of people do IV drips

and glutathione, which is great.

: 1249

01:07:54,714 --> 01:07:58,704

But take this at the same time,

because you will extend the benefits.

: 1250

01:07:58,704 --> 01:08:02,814

Glutathione has a very short,

um, uh, short, uh, half-life,

: 1251

01:08:02,814 --> 01:08:03,864

which means it only lasts.

: 1252

01:08:04,299 --> 01:08:07,199

It lasts about an hour when

you do it in a drip, uh, so you

: 1253

01:08:07,199 --> 01:08:09,629

do get a nice, um, uh, detox.

: 1254

01:08:09,889 --> 01:08:14,999

But if you, uh, stack it with the spirit,

the chlorella, it will last longer.

: 1255

01:08:15,479 --> 01:08:15,909

Evan: Wow.

: 1256

01:08:16,019 --> 01:08:16,379

Okay.

: 1257

01:08:16,408 --> 01:08:17,698

No, thank you for, for mentioning.

: 1258

01:08:18,089 --> 01:08:19,868

And it actually contains

glutathione within it.

: 1259

01:08:20,029 --> 01:08:20,459

The highest

: 1260

01:08:20,559 --> 01:08:21,599

Catharine: glutathione in the world.

: 1261

01:08:21,609 --> 01:08:22,339

We do lab tests.

: 1262

01:08:22,919 --> 01:08:23,109

Yeah.

: 1263

01:08:23,109 --> 01:08:23,189

Yeah.

: 1264

01:08:23,368 --> 01:08:24,669

It's like 6, 000 times.

: 1265

01:08:24,669 --> 01:08:26,589

I don't know what, something, but yeah.

: 1266

01:08:26,589 --> 01:08:30,709

And, and Spirulina has glutathione too,

but, uh, it's, it has, it's claimed to

: 1267

01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:34,589

fame, the highest superoxide dismutase,

which is the mitochondria health.

: 1268

01:08:34,589 --> 01:08:36,959

And this is the highest

glutathione in the world.

: 1269

01:08:36,959 --> 01:08:42,484

This is why Spirulina is the

nourishing brain, Algae and chlorella

: 1270

01:08:42,484 --> 01:08:48,334

is the detox, um, gut algae because

the glutathione, the chlorophyll.

: 1271

01:08:48,363 --> 01:08:48,484

Mm-Hmm.

: 1272

01:08:48,604 --> 01:08:53,524

, the heart cell wall fiber feeds, the

gut biome pulls out, uh, stimulates

: 1273

01:08:53,524 --> 01:08:57,394

peristalsis, which moves, uh, uh, all

the junk in your trunk outta your colon.

: 1274

01:08:57,394 --> 01:08:57,679

So, Mm-Hmm.

: 1275

01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:00,214

, this is very much a gut health algae.

: 1276

01:09:00,214 --> 01:09:03,304

This is about a brain mitochondria, algae.

: 1277

01:09:03,304 --> 01:09:03,363

Wow.

: 1278

01:09:03,604 --> 01:09:06,274

So I, and I tell people, you

know, this is nourishing.

: 1279

01:09:06,524 --> 01:09:08,584

hotels when I travel.

: 1280

01:09:08,584 --> 01:09:10,304

And so this is like room service.

: 1281

01:09:10,304 --> 01:09:11,554

It nourishes you for the day.

: 1282

01:09:11,554 --> 01:09:15,004

And then you come back, your room's all

clean, just like housekeeping was there.

: 1283

01:09:15,004 --> 01:09:20,374

So, so think of Chlorella as housekeeping

and Spirulina as room service.

: 1284

01:09:20,374 --> 01:09:21,943

Evan: I love it.

: 1285

01:09:22,024 --> 01:09:22,434

Yeah.

: 1286

01:09:22,734 --> 01:09:27,894

No, that's, I mean, it's in my, it's

in my daily process every single day.

: 1287

01:09:27,894 --> 01:09:31,559

Although I don't, Uh, I don't always

take chlorella in the evening.

: 1288

01:09:31,609 --> 01:09:34,868

Um, I actually kind of cycle

between the two usually, but now I'm

: 1289

01:09:34,868 --> 01:09:36,439

going to start doing that process.

: 1290

01:09:36,618 --> 01:09:36,738

And

: 1291

01:09:36,788 --> 01:09:38,349

Catharine: you can take it

any time of day, but we just,

: 1292

01:09:38,589 --> 01:09:39,759

you'll get a lot of benefit.

: 1293

01:09:39,979 --> 01:09:43,929

Um, and by the way, chlorella tastes

delicious with pistachio nuts.

: 1294

01:09:43,929 --> 01:09:46,389

My favorite is salt and

vinegar pistachio nuts.

: 1295

01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:49,189

It's a brand called

wonderful or macadamia nuts.

: 1296

01:09:49,779 --> 01:09:51,479

We just put it in any kind of trail mix.

: 1297

01:09:51,828 --> 01:09:52,979

Uh, it's, it's great.

: 1298

01:09:52,988 --> 01:09:56,239

Spirulina, it doesn't, nothing

really improves the flavor of it.

: 1299

01:09:56,249 --> 01:09:57,449

So most people just swallow it.

: 1300

01:09:57,449 --> 01:09:58,619

I'll, I'll admit to that.

: 1301

01:09:59,259 --> 01:09:59,579

Yeah,

: 1302

01:09:59,759 --> 01:10:00,759

Evan: no, that's okay though.

: 1303

01:10:00,849 --> 01:10:03,529

Um, well, I do have a few more questions.

: 1304

01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:06,529

So I'm going to, I'm going

to run these by real quick.

: 1305

01:10:06,529 --> 01:10:10,949

So first off, uh, will

energy bits be sold abroad?

: 1306

01:10:10,949 --> 01:10:14,669

Uh, I think the person who was asking

this was actually from the UK, but

: 1307

01:10:14,669 --> 01:10:18,049

we'll just, we'll put Europe as well

in there or, or anywhere abroad.

: 1308

01:10:18,594 --> 01:10:20,834

Catharine: Yeah, we do ship

internationally, but it's expensive

: 1309

01:10:20,834 --> 01:10:22,014

and you know, it's horrible.

: 1310

01:10:22,024 --> 01:10:25,804

So the good news for the person in

the UK is six months ago, we formed

: 1311

01:10:25,804 --> 01:10:33,604

a partnership with a UK wellness

website called HEALTH, H E A L T H F,

: 1312

01:10:33,614 --> 01:10:36,294

I think they're very, very popular.

: 1313

01:10:36,564 --> 01:10:38,629

Um, so you can go to HEALTH.

: 1314

01:10:39,939 --> 01:10:41,709

and they've got all of our products.

: 1315

01:10:42,509 --> 01:10:44,129

We started with just two and

then they added two more.

: 1316

01:10:44,139 --> 01:10:45,589

They've got just about everything now.

: 1317

01:10:45,599 --> 01:10:52,019

So, um, and we're trying to build an

Amazon site in Australia and the UK.

: 1318

01:10:52,349 --> 01:10:58,439

Um, but the, um, the logistics

and the paperwork and the forms

: 1319

01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,759

and the, we have to set up a

company there and get approved.

: 1320

01:11:01,759 --> 01:11:05,999

And, uh, there's a lot of, we've

been working on this, almost nine

: 1321

01:11:05,999 --> 01:11:09,659

months now and we're still in

the form of, but that's coming.

: 1322

01:11:09,659 --> 01:11:13,629

So we'll, we will have an Amazon by

next year in us cause we have a lot

: 1323

01:11:13,629 --> 01:11:17,449

of people in Australia who hear me on

podcasts and they want the product.

: 1324

01:11:17,449 --> 01:11:18,669

So, so it's coming.

: 1325

01:11:19,059 --> 01:11:23,299

So, uh, but you can go in the UK

folks go to health and uh, you'll

: 1326

01:11:23,299 --> 01:11:24,849

get, you can get your stuff there.

: 1327

01:11:25,249 --> 01:11:26,089

Evan: Okay, cool.

: 1328

01:11:26,169 --> 01:11:31,739

Um, uh, the next one is, does

algae have beta carotene in it?

: 1329

01:11:32,109 --> 01:11:33,139

Catharine: Oh, my God.

: 1330

01:11:33,329 --> 01:11:37,599

I was the highest in the world,

which is a precursor to vitamin a.

: 1331

01:11:37,929 --> 01:11:40,909

Uh, it's the natural

form of, uh, precursor.

: 1332

01:11:40,949 --> 01:11:42,619

I guess it's precursors,

not the natural form.

: 1333

01:11:42,929 --> 01:11:46,299

So, um, so absolutely it's, I don't

have the numbers in front of us, but

: 1334

01:11:46,299 --> 01:11:49,549

if you go on our website and you go to

any one of the product, you'll see the

: 1335

01:11:49,549 --> 01:11:52,369

nutritional chart that lists everything.

: 1336

01:11:52,379 --> 01:11:55,909

Um, 30 tablets, but you'll

see all the quantities.

: 1337

01:11:55,919 --> 01:11:58,239

There's, there's over 40 nutrients.

: 1338

01:11:59,534 --> 01:12:01,484

And that's only because those

are the ones we've tested.

: 1339

01:12:01,484 --> 01:12:04,954

We're going to be at, you only,

we, you have to ask the labs

: 1340

01:12:04,954 --> 01:12:05,894

to test for certain things.

: 1341

01:12:05,904 --> 01:12:07,644

So we're adding about

another 20 nutrients.

: 1342

01:12:07,644 --> 01:12:09,994

So I hope there's going to be

room on our nutrition chart.

: 1343

01:12:13,184 --> 01:12:15,094

The website on all of our products.

: 1344

01:12:15,154 --> 01:12:18,784

The canisters, the bags, we have a

little QR code and that will show

: 1345

01:12:18,784 --> 01:12:20,454

you the full nutritional chart too.

: 1346

01:12:20,554 --> 01:12:24,094

Because the FDA only allows us to

put certain nutrients into the,

: 1347

01:12:24,434 --> 01:12:25,894

what we have as a nutritional chart.

: 1348

01:12:26,134 --> 01:12:27,374

They won't let us list everything.

: 1349

01:12:27,374 --> 01:12:29,584

They just say, Nope, these

are the ones you can, and

: 1350

01:12:29,854 --> 01:12:31,294

tells us the size of the line.

: 1351

01:12:31,304 --> 01:12:33,364

It's, it's, uh, cause

that's what the FDA does.

: 1352

01:12:33,364 --> 01:12:38,134

It regulates packaging, uh,

of supplements and food.

: 1353

01:12:38,424 --> 01:12:44,419

Um, it only, drugs, but it regulates

the packaging of other things.

: 1354

01:12:44,419 --> 01:12:46,279

And so we're in the food category.

: 1355

01:12:46,689 --> 01:12:47,099

Evan: Okay.

: 1356

01:12:47,249 --> 01:12:47,539

Okay.

: 1357

01:12:47,539 --> 01:12:48,019

Gotcha.

: 1358

01:12:48,349 --> 01:12:52,429

Um, and then I think this is the

last one that I included on here.

: 1359

01:12:52,429 --> 01:12:55,189

We had someone who was a

pretty big cod oil fan.

: 1360

01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:58,779

They were pretty adamant

about hyping up cod oil.

: 1361

01:12:58,779 --> 01:13:04,109

So anyways, they were saying

that, uh, algae, doesn't work

: 1362

01:13:04,119 --> 01:13:06,439

as a lubricant such as cod oil.

: 1363

01:13:06,629 --> 01:13:09,289

Um, I don't know if they're

talking primarily about the

: 1364

01:13:09,299 --> 01:13:11,979

Omega three content in there.

: 1365

01:13:12,068 --> 01:13:17,309

Um, I, I'm not really sure, but

yeah, we'll, we'll answer this one.

: 1366

01:13:17,309 --> 01:13:19,049

So does this act as a lubricant?

: 1367

01:13:19,568 --> 01:13:25,009

Catharine: Well, I don't, uh, I'm not

sure what they're defining as a lubricant.

: 1368

01:13:25,009 --> 01:13:29,924

Here's the importance of things

like Omega three, your cells, are

: 1369

01:13:29,924 --> 01:13:34,094

made of something called lipids,

which is a fancy way of saying fats.

: 1370

01:13:34,414 --> 01:13:40,244

And so you need healthy fats, whether

it's vitamin D or omega three to

: 1371

01:13:40,274 --> 01:13:47,979

keep your cell wall moist and working

because when it's dried up, nutrients

: 1372

01:13:47,979 --> 01:13:49,929

can't get in and toxins can't get out.

: 1373

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So the key for your cell health,

one of the keys is keeping toxins

: 1374

01:13:54,959 --> 01:13:56,909

out, of course, keeping it healthy.

: 1375

01:13:56,919 --> 01:13:58,849

And the way you do that

is with healthy fats.

: 1376

01:13:59,189 --> 01:14:03,979

Um, now algae has some spirulina,

not, not so much chlorella.

: 1377

01:14:03,979 --> 01:14:07,189

Spirulina has some omega 3, but not a lot.

: 1378

01:14:07,229 --> 01:14:09,443

I will say, however, it has omega 3.

: 1379

01:14:09,554 --> 01:14:12,074

other essential fatty acids and something

else I'm going to tell you about

: 1380

01:14:12,074 --> 01:14:13,124

that I'm sure you didn't know about.

: 1381

01:14:13,504 --> 01:14:17,534

So it has a, uh, technically an

omega 6, which is called GLA,

: 1382

01:14:17,544 --> 01:14:19,284

which stands for gamma lineic acid.

: 1383

01:14:19,794 --> 01:14:23,154

Now, normally we all know

omega 6s aren't good for you.

: 1384

01:14:23,184 --> 01:14:26,554

Stay away from the, from

the, uh, canola oils.

: 1385

01:14:26,554 --> 01:14:28,139

It's the, it's the, It's evil.

: 1386

01:14:28,179 --> 01:14:28,899

It's just evil.

: 1387

01:14:28,899 --> 01:14:30,019

I don't know how to describe it.

: 1388

01:14:30,549 --> 01:14:35,699

But particularly, Omega 6s are bad because

they're all heated processed foods.

: 1389

01:14:35,699 --> 01:14:36,579

Use Omega 3s.

: 1390

01:14:36,589 --> 01:14:39,769

They, all those potato chips, and

they are cooked in, uh, these,

: 1391

01:14:39,949 --> 01:14:42,419

uh, Omega 6s, not three, sorry.

: 1392

01:14:42,719 --> 01:14:45,559

Now we don't, we don't heat our algae.

: 1393

01:14:45,769 --> 01:14:50,568

And so Omega, this, this, GLA,

if it's not exposed to IE, it

: 1394

01:14:50,589 --> 01:14:52,089

behaves like an omega three.

: 1395

01:14:52,089 --> 01:14:55,779

And if you ever thought you weren't sure

whether GLA was an important essential

: 1396

01:14:55,779 --> 01:14:59,049

fatty acid, the only place that has

more of it is mother's breast milk.

: 1397

01:14:59,429 --> 01:15:02,129

And the reason why it's in such high

concentration in mother's breast milk

: 1398

01:15:02,129 --> 01:15:06,519

is that it's an important essential

fatty acid for the baby's brain to grow.

: 1399

01:15:07,169 --> 01:15:08,729

Second to mother's breast milk.

: 1400

01:15:08,834 --> 01:15:09,884

is spirulina.

: 1401

01:15:10,264 --> 01:15:16,874

So it has and because we don't use

high heats to dry our algae, it's in

: 1402

01:15:16,874 --> 01:15:19,164

a format that behaves like an omega 3.

: 1403

01:15:19,174 --> 01:15:23,054

So it supports the omega 3, you

know, which is not in a small,

: 1404

01:15:23,104 --> 01:15:24,434

large quantity, which I will admit.

: 1405

01:15:24,949 --> 01:15:28,829

Now here's the thing that most people

would never know, and I don't know if I

: 1406

01:15:28,829 --> 01:15:30,449

have a chart, a picture I can show you.

: 1407

01:15:30,959 --> 01:15:36,079

So algae has the highest concentration

of chlorophyll in the world, and we

: 1408

01:15:36,079 --> 01:15:37,449

know that chlorophyll builds your blood.

: 1409

01:15:37,869 --> 01:15:43,519

But what you probably don't know is

that chlorophyll is a fat based pigment.

: 1410

01:15:43,839 --> 01:15:44,859

And here's a picture.

: 1411

01:15:45,068 --> 01:15:49,959

I put some spirulina in a bowl, and the

beautiful blue pigment, which we talked

: 1412

01:15:49,959 --> 01:15:54,679

about earlier, phycocyanin, dispersed,

dispersed evenly through the water.

: 1413

01:15:54,679 --> 01:15:55,959

Look how gorgeous that is.

: 1414

01:15:56,339 --> 01:16:01,139

And then when I did the same thing with

the chlorella, which only has chlorophyll,

: 1415

01:16:01,389 --> 01:16:04,359

it did not disperse evenly and it clumps.

: 1416

01:16:04,639 --> 01:16:09,789

I did this experiment 20 times until

finally I went online and I learned

: 1417

01:16:10,139 --> 01:16:12,329

that chlorophyll is a fat based pigment.

: 1418

01:16:13,049 --> 01:16:16,619

So chlorophyll heals your cell walls.

: 1419

01:16:17,064 --> 01:16:23,024

Just like an omega 3, a D3, a

vitamin E, because it's fat.

: 1420

01:16:23,324 --> 01:16:24,364

It's fat.

: 1421

01:16:24,624 --> 01:16:27,454

And I think this is one of

the reasons why people do, um,

: 1422

01:16:28,084 --> 01:16:29,984

um, juice fasts or something.

: 1423

01:16:30,054 --> 01:16:34,624

Part of it's the cleaning of the cell wall

or the healing of the cell wall from the,

: 1424

01:16:34,934 --> 01:16:38,664

but unfortunately our vegetables don't

have any chlorophyll in them anymore.

: 1425

01:16:38,664 --> 01:16:40,224

They don't have any

nutrients in them anymore.

: 1426

01:16:40,224 --> 01:16:42,814

Even if you're eating organic,

my arugula goes yellow after day

: 1427

01:16:42,824 --> 01:16:44,384

three because there wasn't much.

: 1428

01:16:44,659 --> 01:16:45,159

Chlorophyll.

: 1429

01:16:45,629 --> 01:16:47,329

Algae has the highest

chlorophyll in the world.

: 1430

01:16:47,499 --> 01:16:52,839

Chlorella has 400, chlorophyll

than arugula, and 25 times

: 1431

01:16:52,839 --> 01:16:54,449

more than liquid chlorophyll.

: 1432

01:16:54,919 --> 01:16:57,269

Spirulina has half the amount

of chlorophyll because it's

: 1433

01:16:57,269 --> 01:16:58,369

got that other pigment in it.

: 1434

01:16:58,629 --> 01:17:03,179

So either one that you're taking,

you're benefiting your cell walls

: 1435

01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:05,369

just as if you had with omega 3.

: 1436

01:17:05,379 --> 01:17:09,818

Now the trouble with fish oil in

general is that it goes rancid.

: 1437

01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:11,109

It oxidizes.

: 1438

01:17:11,148 --> 01:17:12,799

It just is what happens.

: 1439

01:17:13,079 --> 01:17:16,979

So in many cases, the fish oil is

either rancid by the time you get it,

: 1440

01:17:17,219 --> 01:17:18,859

or it goes rancid shortly thereafter.

: 1441

01:17:19,129 --> 01:17:22,549

So it's supposed to be taken for

anti inflammatory purposes, and

: 1442

01:17:22,549 --> 01:17:23,779

now it's causing inflammation.

: 1443

01:17:24,939 --> 01:17:29,519

there, I'm sure there's some sources that

are reputable and work better than others.

: 1444

01:17:29,529 --> 01:17:33,369

So I don't want to get into a battle

with cod oil because I know it's been

: 1445

01:17:33,369 --> 01:17:38,219

used safely and effectively, especially

for brain health for centuries.

: 1446

01:17:38,449 --> 01:17:42,419

So honestly, if something's

working for you, Stay with it.

: 1447

01:17:43,029 --> 01:17:47,379

And if you want to experiment, just add

the algae, the spirulina in particular.

: 1448

01:17:47,549 --> 01:17:51,789

I'm not saying take your, your,

uh, cod oil away, but if you want

: 1449

01:17:51,789 --> 01:17:55,059

to up level, it's like the thing

we were talking about earlier.

: 1450

01:17:55,449 --> 01:17:58,879

You always look at change as

being a negative, but it's because

: 1451

01:17:58,879 --> 01:18:00,449

you're not aware of the positive.

: 1452

01:18:00,759 --> 01:18:03,589

You don't know how much

better you could feel.

: 1453

01:18:03,844 --> 01:18:03,974

Right?

: 1454

01:18:04,193 --> 01:18:04,894

Until you try it.

: 1455

01:18:05,264 --> 01:18:08,134

And if you don't want to come to

our website and buy a large bag,

: 1456

01:18:08,644 --> 01:18:12,404

with the 20 percent discount code

we have, Elemental, you could go to

: 1457

01:18:12,404 --> 01:18:15,374

Amazon, buy a little pouch for 6.

: 1458

01:18:15,764 --> 01:18:17,494

Very inexpensive experiment.

: 1459

01:18:17,494 --> 01:18:20,014

They have, you know, if you have prime

shipping, it costs you nothing to ship.

: 1460

01:18:20,574 --> 01:18:23,284

There's nothing like trying

something out on yourself.

: 1461

01:18:23,304 --> 01:18:24,534

In small quantities.

: 1462

01:18:24,894 --> 01:18:27,014

I'm not here to convince

anybody of anything.

: 1463

01:18:27,014 --> 01:18:31,554

I'm just here to to share my knowledge,

provide you with a healthy, safe,

: 1464

01:18:31,914 --> 01:18:36,864

nutrient dense solution that's working

for tens of thousands of people,

: 1465

01:18:37,314 --> 01:18:40,104

hundreds, frankly, including myself.

: 1466

01:18:40,434 --> 01:18:43,914

Um, I just want you to feel as

great as I do, but so you don't

: 1467

01:18:43,914 --> 01:18:45,314

have to give up your cod liver oil.

: 1468

01:18:45,364 --> 01:18:47,934

This is not a, this is

not a political landscape.

: 1469

01:18:48,023 --> 01:18:50,789

Nutrition has turned into a a war.

: 1470

01:18:51,539 --> 01:18:53,759

And I love algae because it's like me.

: 1471

01:18:53,789 --> 01:18:55,159

I just want to be friends with everybody.

: 1472

01:18:55,169 --> 01:18:58,099

Algae wants to work with everybody

and it can work with everybody.

: 1473

01:18:58,099 --> 01:19:04,209

Whatever your choices are, vegan,

vegetarian, paleo, uh, low cal, low carb,

: 1474

01:19:04,489 --> 01:19:08,273

uh, carnivore, It doesn't choose sides.

: 1475

01:19:08,604 --> 01:19:10,334

It's not, it's not the election.

: 1476

01:19:10,964 --> 01:19:11,084

Yeah.

: 1477

01:19:12,434 --> 01:19:14,724

Catharine: It's, it's your, you

know, honestly, it's your best

: 1478

01:19:14,724 --> 01:19:16,924

friend and it's, it's on your side.

: 1479

01:19:17,244 --> 01:19:18,574

So, so is your mitochondria.

: 1480

01:19:18,604 --> 01:19:22,004

They want to do the best job for you,

but they can't put food in your mouth.

: 1481

01:19:23,104 --> 01:19:28,054

only you can, uh, so, or, or, or

limited through intermittent fasting.

: 1482

01:19:28,064 --> 01:19:31,894

So it, um, so it's on

your side and so is algae.

: 1483

01:19:32,193 --> 01:19:36,074

So it just wants to be, it's just there

to help you if you want to try it.

: 1484

01:19:37,344 --> 01:19:37,824

Evan: Catherine.

: 1485

01:19:37,874 --> 01:19:40,174

I knew there was a reason

why we're good friends.

: 1486

01:19:40,544 --> 01:19:40,744

Yeah.

: 1487

01:19:40,794 --> 01:19:42,744

You and I are, we're the same in that.

: 1488

01:19:42,784 --> 01:19:44,554

Um, yeah, honestly, just.

: 1489

01:19:44,984 --> 01:19:46,404

Want to be a friend to all.

: 1490

01:19:46,404 --> 01:19:48,414

And, and like you said, sharing knowledge.

: 1491

01:19:48,414 --> 01:19:51,784

That's what the show is about trying

to make it into bite sized pieces.

: 1492

01:19:51,784 --> 01:19:53,374

Digestible people can.

: 1493

01:19:53,804 --> 01:19:56,264

You know, retain this knowledge and

actually apply it to their life.

: 1494

01:19:56,264 --> 01:19:58,943

So, um, Catherine, thank you so much.

: 1495

01:19:58,954 --> 01:20:02,854

Um, I, I want to provide a little

moment here for you to share any,

: 1496

01:20:02,894 --> 01:20:06,514

any last minute, uh, thoughts or as

well, places where people can connect

: 1497

01:20:06,514 --> 01:20:08,523

with you, find more information.

: 1498

01:20:08,693 --> 01:20:11,104

Of course, I will put that in

the show notes or the description

: 1499

01:20:11,104 --> 01:20:12,224

of this episode as well.

: 1500

01:20:12,424 --> 01:20:15,264

And then aside from that, just think

from the bottom of my heart, appreciate

: 1501

01:20:15,264 --> 01:20:16,443

you always coming on this show.

: 1502

01:20:16,484 --> 01:20:18,114

Catharine: Oh, well, thank you, Evan.

: 1503

01:20:18,114 --> 01:20:21,474

And I'm so grateful for you

because you know, we can't get

: 1504

01:20:21,474 --> 01:20:23,264

this information out any other way.

: 1505

01:20:23,304 --> 01:20:26,864

Um, so just a couple of

things that LG isn't new.

: 1506

01:20:26,864 --> 01:20:27,914

It's just new to you.

: 1507

01:20:27,914 --> 01:20:29,354

It's been used for centuries.

: 1508

01:20:29,354 --> 01:20:32,669

The, uh, Egyptians used it, the

Aztecs used it 250 years ago.

: 1509

01:20:32,669 --> 01:20:36,029

It's been used in Asia

every day for over 60 years.

: 1510

01:20:36,039 --> 01:20:39,859

So scientifically proven, endorsed by

international agencies, United Nations.

: 1511

01:20:40,209 --> 01:20:43,359

It just hasn't been explained

to you properly or at all.

: 1512

01:20:43,579 --> 01:20:47,839

So, uh, give it a try, uh, and stay

open minded, give it a, and then

: 1513

01:20:47,869 --> 01:20:49,429

personally try to experience it.

: 1514

01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:51,919

I will say that I didn't invent algae.

: 1515

01:20:51,919 --> 01:20:52,919

That's mother nature.

: 1516

01:20:53,179 --> 01:20:54,199

Um, but I do.

: 1517

01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:58,309

Uh, grow it so carefully

to preserve the nutrients.

: 1518

01:20:58,309 --> 01:21:03,639

So they are the highest efficacy

that you can possibly get and safety.

: 1519

01:21:03,639 --> 01:21:06,349

So you can give it to any member

of your family, including your

: 1520

01:21:06,359 --> 01:21:07,529

pets and not worry about it.

: 1521

01:21:08,099 --> 01:21:10,619

We try to make it as affordable

as possible with this.

: 1522

01:21:11,229 --> 01:21:15,979

If you use the elemental discount

code, Um, on the website, energybits.

: 1523

01:21:15,989 --> 01:21:19,259

com, um, and the big

bag is their best value.

: 1524

01:21:19,489 --> 01:21:22,409

It will, if you take 10 a day,

it costs you a dollar a day

: 1525

01:21:22,429 --> 01:21:23,689

and will last you three months.

: 1526

01:21:23,969 --> 01:21:27,459

Um, and the only other thing I

will say is we are in a crisis.

: 1527

01:21:27,818 --> 01:21:32,379

We are in a nutritional crisis,

a mental health crisis, a health

: 1528

01:21:32,379 --> 01:21:35,249

crisis, uh, an environmental crisis.

: 1529

01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:39,949

And the irony is algae

can solve all of those.

: 1530

01:21:39,949 --> 01:21:41,229

It's not going to happen overnight.

: 1531

01:21:41,549 --> 01:21:42,539

It's not going to go away.

: 1532

01:21:42,539 --> 01:21:43,869

It's been here for four billion years.

: 1533

01:21:44,169 --> 01:21:49,259

Um, but I, my job is to try to

help you learn more about it, keep

: 1534

01:21:49,269 --> 01:21:51,089

growing it, maybe hopefully soon.

: 1535

01:21:51,154 --> 01:21:56,304

In America, um, because it will, it will

be the answer for feeding our world.

: 1536

01:21:56,314 --> 01:21:57,484

There's no question.

: 1537

01:21:57,824 --> 01:22:00,714

And, uh, so somebody

has to lead the charge.

: 1538

01:22:00,724 --> 01:22:01,804

I guess that's what I'm doing.

: 1539

01:22:02,704 --> 01:22:04,344

Um, so learn as much as you can.

: 1540

01:22:04,344 --> 01:22:04,724

We're here.

: 1541

01:22:04,724 --> 01:22:05,504

We have a blog.

: 1542

01:22:05,834 --> 01:22:08,314

Um, we're also very active

on social media, Instagram.

: 1543

01:22:08,964 --> 01:22:10,273

Our handle is energy bets.

: 1544

01:22:10,273 --> 01:22:11,394

Facebook is energy bits.

: 1545

01:22:11,914 --> 01:22:13,934

Um, come and see us at shows.

: 1546

01:22:14,004 --> 01:22:16,014

We're here to work with you, help you.

: 1547

01:22:16,474 --> 01:22:17,364

And so is LG.

: 1548

01:22:18,414 --> 01:22:19,193

Evan: Yeah, Catherine.

: 1549

01:22:19,193 --> 01:22:20,244

I love it so much.

: 1550

01:22:20,264 --> 01:22:22,124

Um, Thank you as well for mentioning that.

: 1551

01:22:22,124 --> 01:22:22,324

Yeah.

: 1552

01:22:22,324 --> 01:22:25,114

The, uh, for all the listeners,

there will be the code in the

: 1553

01:22:25,114 --> 01:22:26,664

description with the link right there.

: 1554

01:22:26,664 --> 01:22:30,374

So if you do want to go make a purchase,

you'll get that 20 percent discount.

: 1555

01:22:30,554 --> 01:22:34,374

Uh, thank you, Catherine and the whole

team of energy bits for providing that.

: 1556

01:22:34,654 --> 01:22:39,429

Um, and yeah, what a way to end that,

uh, at, End your statement there.

: 1557

01:22:39,429 --> 01:22:40,269

That was beautiful.

: 1558

01:22:40,299 --> 01:22:42,849

Um, like I said, it's a

pleasure to have you on.

: 1559

01:22:42,849 --> 01:22:44,318

Thank you for all the work you're doing.

: 1560

01:22:44,318 --> 01:22:46,898

Congrats as well on the PhD.

: 1561

01:22:46,904 --> 01:22:47,174

Thank you.

: 1562

01:22:47,273 --> 01:22:50,109

And also, thank you also, uh,

go see Catherine at a show.

: 1563

01:22:50,109 --> 01:22:53,949

It's, it's, you bring great energy

and, uh, yeah, it was, it was

: 1564

01:22:53,949 --> 01:22:56,739

nice to see you at the biohacking

conference quite a while now.

: 1565

01:22:57,839 --> 01:22:59,269

Um, but we'll see you again.

: 1566

01:22:59,289 --> 01:23:00,068

Catharine: Don't, don't worry.

: 1567

01:23:00,279 --> 01:23:00,869

Oh, for sure.

: 1568

01:23:00,919 --> 01:23:01,259

For sure.

: 1569

01:23:01,259 --> 01:23:03,809

There's no perfect, but

: 1570

01:23:04,219 --> 01:23:04,809

Evan: thank you so much.

: 1571

01:23:04,809 --> 01:23:06,089

You have a beautiful rest of your day.

: 1572

01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:06,339

You

: 1573

01:23:06,339 --> 01:23:06,659

Catharine: too.

: 1574

01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:07,089

All right.

: 1575

01:23:07,139 --> 01:23:07,749

Thanks, Evan.

: 1576

01:23:07,839 --> 01:23:08,369

Take care.