172. The Path Forward: Wellness Wisdom and Life Lessons with Heather

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What's going on, everybody.

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Welcome to the elemental oven podcast.

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Thank you so much for joining me today.

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This is your host, Evan Roberts.

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And as always on this podcast, I break

down health topics from a holistic

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and simplified perspective so that

you can walk away from these episodes

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with some actionable steps and tools

that you can apply to your life and

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hopefully change it for the better.

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On today's episode, I'm

joined by a reoccurring guest.

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She is a near and dear friend

of mine, and honestly, just

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a great person to be around.

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It is Heather, Mario.

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Heather was actually the very first

acro yoga teacher that Ashley and I ever

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had, which is really awesome because

up until we had met Heather, we were

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self-teaching ourselves just through

Instagram, which was super fun, but

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definitely the progress skyrocketed

after we connected with Heather.

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So it's always great to just

connect with Heather and just

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see where life is taking her.

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And on today's episode, we are

going to cover topics such as what.

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The ego and why you should check your ego.

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We also talk about the life of

a Yogi and why Heather had to

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switch from being a full-time yoga

teacher into a different career.

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We talk about pivoting careers and the

difficulties that those might bring.

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And then last but not least,

we talk about life coaching and

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what exactly life coaching is.

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I feel like that's a term

that we hear all the time.

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It's like a buzzword, but

we never actually hear.

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Kind of like what it's actually about.

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So on today's episode, we actually

break down what a life coach

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is and what that looks like.

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So that is all in today's episode.

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I know you all are going to love

this conversation with Heather.

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I'm going to.

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Preemptively apologize for the

sound quality on today's episode

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of because there was a little

bit of difficulty with that.

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It is something I'm working on, so

you can expect future episodes to have

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nice, crisp and clear sound to them.

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But nonetheless, the content and quality

of the actual conversation you were

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about to hear is absolutely on point.

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Um, I love all of the knowledge

that Heather always brings

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to these conversations.

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So I hope you all enjoy.

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And without further ado,

let's welcome on Heather.

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what's going on Heather.

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Welcome back to the Elemental Evan show.

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There's not many people I

get to actually say that to.

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So welcome back to the show.

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Hey, thanks.

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I'm super excited to be back.

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Yeah.

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It's a, it's always a pleasure

to just have a conversation with

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you, but it's even more of a

pleasure to have you on the show.

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So I'm really excited to have you on.

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And I feel like a lot has been happening

in your life as well as my life.

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And I don't know, I feel like the last

couple of years, , What are some of

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the big things that have been going

on for you in the last year or two?

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Um, I mean, I'd say like the biggest

thing for me that's been going on, I

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know like the last time I was here, I was

talking about like handstands and like

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yoga and like that health focus, and I've

always really been in that world, right?

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That's how we met and how we connected is

our shared love of movement and health.

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And that really kind of springboarded

me into this like world of.

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I don't really want to say mental health

but like maybe just greater wellness of

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like encompassing like the whole person

and so not just like the movement,

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the physical activity, the nutrition,

but also the mindset and like your

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happiness level and your relationships

and all of those things that go a

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bit deeper into our level of health.

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Um, I was really craving more connection

and information about that in greater

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ways to help people because I spent so

long being a yoga teacher that I really

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wanted to teach something a bit deeper

like I wanted to get into that and yoga

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definitely does touch on that but I

was finding it really hard to get that

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instruction in the yoga studio because

you know people are coming for a movement

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class they want to do asana and like

that's great and I love that but I started

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feeling like something was really really

lacking and so I kind of stepped away

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from the yoga studio and and got more into

like the personal development world and

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yeah.

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So I really am like going like full

into life coaching and trying to

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help people expand their wellness

in more, um, well rounded ways.

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Yeah.

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Um, kind of on the topic of.

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And I know we're going to get into

the, the life coaching, um, just for

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everyone listening, that is going to

be an exciting portion of this episode.

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But before we jump there on the topic

of mindset, because mindset has been one

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of the biggest things that I've probably

been cultivating this last year to two

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years, I would say, um, what's been one

of the biggest mindset shifts or, um,

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kind of concepts that has really resonated

with you and had an impact in your life?

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Such a good question.

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Um, I feel like the biggest mindset

shift I had was kind of This idea

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of like, really, like my focus

is I'm not playing small anymore.

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Um, and what I mean by that is really

giving myself the belief that I can

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go for something big and scary and

new and believe that I can do it.

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Um, whereas like I've done a

lot of things in my life that

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I've like accomplished, right?

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Like there's definitely goals

I set out for myself that I.

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You know, hit, um, but they always felt.

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A little safe, a little predictable, like,

you know, sure, graduated from college,

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did really well, got, like, the teaching

job, bought the house, like, had the

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kid, um, you know, became a yoga teacher,

started teaching classes, um, that

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sort of thing, but it was kind of like

this mapped out, pre programmed place.

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And doing something that didn't have

a mapped out path that was a bit more

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entrepreneurial and really believing

in myself is something very new for me.

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Like, I never was really that person to

Take a risk like that and go full like

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entrepreneur and Yeah, I feel like I've

really really done that so that was like

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a big mindset shift is I enrolled in this

coach training program The day before it

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started kind of on a lark but not really

because it's something I've been thinking

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about for a while and And I talked to my

partner about it and he was like you need

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to do this because you've been talking

about this for years And it's meant for

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you And you really need to go for it.

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And that was kind of like the springboard.

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I like just signed up And once I did that,

I mean I was terrified But I really went

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all in and I haven't stopped going all

in and so i'd say that's probably the

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biggest mindset shift I've really had.

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Yep.

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That's that's a big mindset Shift to

have where you kind of like come to

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the conclusion of, but why not me?

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Like what makes me the person that's

not able to go after these big,

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you know, crazy goals that I have,

you know, only imaginations about.

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Um, and, you know, I see other

people accomplish it, but, you

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know, I could never do that.

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Um, that's always, I think, a

really, like, a huge barrier

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to get over for everyone.

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Um, I know in one of the meditations

that I would do frequently was, like,

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make it, you know, Understanding that

you're worthy of something like whatever

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your goals are you're worthy of them

And it's kind of funny to say because

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you're like, of course i'm worthy

of my goals But for me at least when

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I sat with that and actually asked

myself like am I worthy of this goal?

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Like I realized I actually didn't

feel like I deserved the goals.

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I was trying to achieve and so just

even Opening up that possibility and

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understanding like dude, you're a human

you have Um, you know a lot to offer

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to the world and like why not you you

know You're a unique person you're

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going to connect with a group of people

that are naturally going to resonate

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with you and um, yeah moving forward

with that is It's really difficult.

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So I, I feel like I can kind

of connect to you on that one.

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And um, yeah, for me, the mindset of

just changing, and I know we spoke

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about this, but changing everything

from why is this happening to me to

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what am I meant to learn from this?

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And that's been for me, my biggest,

uh, mindset shift here in like

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probably the last year, which is just

how can I better quit my tool belt?

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How can I take every Difficulty or

challenge that faces me and just tackle

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it head on and then take all of those

learnings and apply them to my life.

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Um, that's definitely

been one of the big ones.

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And, um, yeah, I feel like those two have

kind of been kind of hand in hand for me.

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Yeah, I mean, for sure, like, definitely,

like, that unworthiness feeling, like, for

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sure, creeps in, like, 100%, that's how I

felt, and sometimes still do feel, right?

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It doesn't go away, like, at the, you

know, end of the day, when you're just

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like, oh, I did the meditation, and

I've decided to shift my mindset, and

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now, all of a sudden, it's different.

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That's not really how it works.

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It's, like, something you have to keep.

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Like working with and keep reminding

yourself of and keep like chipping

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away at essentially, because I

definitely still have those feelings

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of like, am I even worthy of this goal?

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But I mean, hell yeah,

exactly what you said.

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Like, why not me?

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Because we see people that are doing it.

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Like you see people who are successful,

who have the business, who are

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doing the thing, who are creating

something new and bold and exciting.

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And like, for me, I felt like

there was something like that in

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me that wanted to get out, and I

didn't really know what it was.

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And then when I tapped into life

coaching, I was like, oh, it's this.

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Like, this was what I was meant to do.

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And really just going with that feeling.

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And then you have moments of

like little setbacks where, you

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know, things don't go right.

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Like the client doesn't call you back.

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You don't make the sale or the fear starts

to creep in of like, Oh, well, maybe

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I'm not going to be so good at this.

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Like maybe I can't do it.

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And then you have to like,

just reframe constantly.

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Like, no, that's just the fear.

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And you have to keep coming back

to this belief in yourself and then

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you're Two steps ahead of where

you started instead of just, you

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know, at the starting line still.

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Yeah, you hit on, you hit on consistency

and I'm so happy that you did because

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I was just recently listening to a

podcast and they were talking about how,

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you know, they looked at people doing

a low fat diet, a low carb diet, like

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all these, you know, different kinds

of diets in terms of just weight loss.

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And it turned out that like

every single one of them worked.

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It was just being consistent with it.

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And so it's like, at the end of the day,

it truly is just purely consistency.

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Like how consistent can you be with

something and show up every single day?

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And get after it.

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And that's where that's

where the magic happened.

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That's where it's those little, you know,

it's like that book atomic habits, right?

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Like something so small, the atom,

but like, is of such power, right?

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You know, and you just keep showing

up every single day and doing that.

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And Yeah, big things can

What's going on everybody?

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Over the last couple of years one of my

goals has been to actually decrease the

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amount of supplements that I was taking.

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At the time I was taking a ton of

different supplements in my cabinet

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and I just really didn't know If there

were a ton of benefit to me or not.

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So I went ahead and re evaluated

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into 2024 with a very simplified cabinet

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a daily and one of those things that

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Spirulina and Chlorella from Energy Bits.

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It is literally one of my favorite

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essentially just a food that is loaded

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You have spirulina, which is going to

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to be extremely poet in chlorophyll,

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which if you're unfamiliar with

chlorophyll, it is able to detoxify your

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blood from heavy metals and mycotoxins.

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And so much more.

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Spirulina and chlorella are something

that I think should be in everyone's diet.

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And this is my favorite way of making sure

that I'm getting in some form of seafood.

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And I hope you love it as much as I do.

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And here's to decluttering that super

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making it a little bit more simplified.

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Alrighty y'all, back to the show.

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are you still teaching yoga currently?

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No, um, I stopped teaching

yoga a little while ago.

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Um, right, like shortly after the

pandemic really hit full force.

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Like I taught yoga through

the pandemic, like on zoom.

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wasn't really my jam, as it was not for

so many people, um, and the studio that I

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was running changed hands, and so then I,

I'm a school teacher as well, so that was

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like really where I started my career, was

just teaching high school chemistry, um,

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and at the time when I was teaching yoga,

I was still like working, um, A few hours

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a week at an independent study school.

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And so, as it turns out, um,

they had a spot for me full time.

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And so I ended up going back

to teaching school full time.

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And so I've been doing that for a while.

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Not teaching yoga, except

to my students at my school.

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I do teach yoga there every week to the

middle schoolers, which is pretty great.

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But yeah, that's the only yoga

I've really been teaching.

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Still, still performing and

working with the circus and

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doing acrobatics, of course.

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Um, but yeah, not teaching yoga.

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Was it hard for you to let, like, I guess

the traditional teaching of yoga go?

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You know, it kind of was.

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Like I had like a moment of

mourning because I was really

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sad to leave my studio.

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I'd been like Helping the owner build

this place up for many years And it was

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it felt a little bit like my like second

child and it was tough but in the moment

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like I really needed to shift like I

wasn't actually happy doing it anymore

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And my partner was like you're ready

like it's time Um, and I think he saw

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it fully before I did But then once I

let it go like it it felt really right I

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needed to move on was it was it hard to?

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Like was it hard to

pivot and kind of like?

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You know, I don't know for me, for

example, like moving from being just

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like full time podcasting, even doing

some health coaching into now picking

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up a role with an amazing company,

Ritual, like love them so much.

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But, um, it was, it was interesting

for me to pivot and to almost like.

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In some ways, like I felt like, I don't

want to say like an imposter, but almost

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like a, you know, just like, oh, what

are people going to think of me now that

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I'm like shifting from here to here?

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And, you know, just that kind of

like uncomfortability, which is so

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interesting that we like, I'm guessing

social media has a lot to do with

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this, but, um, you know, it's like,

we put this pressure on ourselves.

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Like, we almost have to like.

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Look for other people

to validate like that.

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It's okay for us to kind of shift into

a new stage of our life when, I mean,

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I think the only person we really

need to check in with is ourselves.

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Um, but what, what, uh, what kind of

like experiences you have with that?

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And do you have any like, I don't know

findings or tips that you would share with

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people based on kind of navigating that

Yeah, well like so i'm interested to know

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um I definitely am going to answer that

question But i'm interested to know was

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there a part of you that felt A little

bit like a failure because you were giving

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up on your podcast dream and like going

to this corporate job For sure for sure.

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It was like there was a part of

me that It felt yeah, I I felt

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like a You Like I had failed.

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Um mm-Hmm.

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because I didn't accomplish what

I wanted to in that time, and

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I had to go a different route.

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I had to shift completely.

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And I mean like, you know, full

disclosure, looking back on it, it was

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like the best thing I could have done.

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It taught me so much.

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I look back at like.

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You know the last couple years and there's

just so much like that i've learned in

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terms of lessons and knowledge and getting

knocked on my butt and like Having to

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figure stuff out for myself and like

really just navigating all that to where

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i'm now i'm like, oh my god i'm in i'm in

such a better place and even you know, I

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have better tools that like You know if

I were to just focus 100 percent on my

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podcast like I know how I would just go

towards that or You know, there's there's

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a lot of amazing takeaways, but in the

moment it was super difficult and I would

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say it was i've i've never really dealt

with a Like depressive period in my life.

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I'm a pretty upbeat person But I will

say that was a time where I went for

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some really long walks around the block

Just trying to like work stuff out

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in my head like man, what am I doing?

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And, um, that's just also

one of my tips to people.

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If you're going through something

like go take a walk and don't stop

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walking until you feel better.

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Um, you will feel better.

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Like for some reason, walking just

like, Is incredible and it can help

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really help to sort out my mind your

mind and and um meditation helped

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Greatly with that as well, but sorry,

I went long winded on that answer.

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No, no, no, that makes sense Um, I mean,

I totally second that like going for

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walks is amazing Like just getting outside

and breathing the fresh air like for me.

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It's one of my favorite things to do,

too um The reason I ask that question is

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because I feel like sometimes we put a lot

of pressure on ourselves to be one thing.

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And like, sometimes it's not even

the other people and their opinions

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that's making us feel that way.

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Like, oh, I can't shift, I can't pivot.

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It's almost ourselves.

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Because we said to ourselves,

like, we're gonna do this thing.

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And, um, like, I remember there

was a time when I told myself, Um,

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because I was teaching yoga full

time and I really wanted that to be

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my full time gig and for any yoga

teachers listening It's a hard gig.

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Like, I know you know this if

you're teaching yoga full time.

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It's very difficult to make

a living just teaching yoga.

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And, you know, so I did a bunch

of other things too, and I, one of

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them was teaching hourly at this

school, and I told myself I'm only

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going to work 8 hours a week there.

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Because that was like the

parameters I'd put on myself.

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That I'm only doing it

8 eight hours a week.

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I'm still a full time yoga teacher.

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That's my, that's still my identity.

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And then as the years went on, I kind of

kept increasing my hours, increasing my

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hours, increasing my hours because I liked

the school job and it paid a lot better

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than teaching yoga and I needed the money.

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And ultimately, like what I would say

to anybody who's like staring down that

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shift that needs to happen is that, you

know, It's okay for you to do what's

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right for you in the moment, and that

doesn't mean that you failed at what

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you had originally set out to do.

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It just means that, you know, a new phase

of life, a new season is starting for you.

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And to like, go confidently in that

direction, if doors are opening in

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that direction, there's a reason.

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And to explore it.

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And there's not really, I mean, as

much as we want to say, like, there's

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dignity in like the struggle, right?

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The starving artist is that like trope

that we all like kind of look up to.

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And we're like, yeah, they're

doing it for their art.

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And I feel like if you are an

entrepreneur, like, you know, you and

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I are, um, Um, there's a lot of pride

in that, and we're like, we want to

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give it all up for the thing that we

really want to do, but ultimately, like,

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there's nothing, like, shameful about

creating a good living for yourself.

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And if that means that you need

to go work for the school district

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or the corporate job, that's okay.

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It doesn't mean it has to be forever.

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And like you said, like

you're probably going to learn

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amazing things along the way.

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Um, for me personally, like shifting back

to that, like, like I did have a moment

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of like just mourning, like leaving

the studio and feeling sad about that.

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But once I fully committed to the shift

and I moved in this other direction, it

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was kind of like a breath of fresh air.

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I was like, Oh, this is what I needed.

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Um, and so a lot of times, like

when you are feeling that need

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to pivot, sometimes the worst

feeling is right before you pivot.

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When you're like, Oh, I know I

got to take this, like this move.

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I got to make this move.

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But.

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You're nervous and you're hesitant and

you're wondering what everyone's gonna

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think about you because you're suddenly

changing what you've been Telling

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them all these years and there's all

this like angst around that and then

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once you finally do the thing and you

just announce to the world I'm doing

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the thing like all of that goes away.

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It's like a weight lifted off your

shoulders and you can just move forward

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Yeah, it's uh You know I'm, obviously

pretty big in health and wellness as

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are you And one of you, like when you

said a breath of fresh air, um, it's

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funny because one of the things that I

think a lot of people don't take into

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account when talking about definitely

mental health and wellness is, um.

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Financial freedom and or maybe not even

financial freedom, but rather just having

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your finances in in a line you know and

and where you need them and it can cause

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so much stress and Difficulty on a person

who you know, like you said the it's

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so cool to see the artist That's really

trying to like struggle and and make it

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worth for their artwork and all that and

that's amazing for sure but to what end

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right and it is there's this like You

Breath of fresh air when you finally can

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just like be like, Hey, I'm not tripping

on like how rent is getting paid and

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whatever other bills might come our way.

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Like it's a very relieving

thing and um, yeah, it is

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definitely a breath of fresh air.

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: 00:23:33

Uh, yeah, I was had something else

beyond there, but I'm going to, I

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forgot where I was going with that.

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So we're going to leave it at the finance.

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But, um, yeah, it was definitely,

it was, it was a huge breath

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of fresh air for sure.

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Yeah, yeah, I agree Yeah, I mean really

like what what more need uh be said on

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that aside from that but Yeah, it's uh,

it's definitely, oh, the other thing I

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was going to mention too was, um, I've

actually found that in my current role,

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in my, the current place that I am in

life, I'm actually more motivated, which

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is so funny because I had way more time

just a year ago to do so much more,

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but whether it be for my own enjoyment

or, or more importantly towards like

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a business and like trying to make

money and things along those lines.

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And I found that having kind of

more of a structure and also like

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lack of time actually has made me

so much more effective and efficient

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with the time that I do have.

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And also much more motivated to

the point where it's like, I have

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to get this done by this time.

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And, uh, you know, it really has been

like a kick in the butt to get after it.

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And I know I shared with this, uh,

with you, This with you last time

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as well, but once again, I said

freedom is only the opportunity

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for self discipline or discipline.

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Um, one of the U.

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S.

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presidents said that quote, and

then you came back and you said,

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um, discipline, what would you say

freedom is equal to discipline?

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Yeah, so like, the more disciplined you

are, the more freedom you truly have.

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And I think that's, um, gosh, it was

one of the Navy SEALs, I want to say

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it was like Jocko, or Yeah, I think so.

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I think it was Jocko, um, that said

like, discipline equals freedom.

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And I fully, fully stand by that,

because if you are disciplined in your

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health, Then you're going to have the

freedom to move and do what you want

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because, you know, you're less likely

to be injured or unhealthy, right?

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Random illness is notwithstanding,

like sometimes people do just

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get ill out of nowhere, but you

know, the more disciplined you

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are, the more freedom you have.

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: 00:25:54

If you are more disciplined about

your time, then things aren't

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going to get away from you.

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: 00:26:01

And then when you have

free time, it's truly free.

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: 00:26:04

You're not worried about, Oh, I didn't

get this thing done by this deadline.

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: 00:26:08

And now I'm behind and I've got to rush.

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No, you truly feel free because you

know that you've gotten everything

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done and your free time is yours.

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So I really think, and like, even, I mean,

we could take it a step further and say,

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like the disciplined mind is the free

mind, like, How often do you find your

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thoughts just completely undisciplined

and just spinning all over the place and

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you feel completely paralyzed by that?

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Whereas if you have a disciplined mind

and you notice your spot, your thoughts

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spinning and you catch yourself and

you, you know, try to pinpoint, okay,

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like what's really going on here?

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: 00:26:43

What's important?

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Is this true?

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Can I let this go?

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All right, moving on with my day.

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: 00:26:49

And then you're free to

focus on what you want to.

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: 00:26:54

Yeah, it's, it's very true.

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Uh, discipline is probably one

of the best practices to have.

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: 00:27:04

Um, it's a tough one, but it's

super good and it does, it leads to

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freedom in other areas of your life.

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: 00:27:11

And, um, it sounds almost like,

counterintuitive or counterproductive

425

: 00:27:17

where it's like, Oh, like I

don't want to be disciplined.

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: 00:27:19

I want to like have freedom and,

and you know, just enjoy my time.

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: 00:27:23

But it's like actually having the

discipline really allows you to make sure

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you have the time to enjoy and to relax.

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: 00:27:31

Um, yeah.

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: 00:27:32

But Heather, I wanted to, uh, I

have two other questions I wanted

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to ask you before we move into

the last part of our episode here.

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Um, and one of those was, what are

your current, what's your current

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focus with health and wellness?

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: 00:27:49

Because I think with a lot of people,

myself included, It tends to evolve,

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: 00:27:54

shift, take different names and looks

and all these different things, uh,

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: 00:27:59

the practices, the foods, everything.

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So what are some of the current

practices that you're really

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enjoying and that you found some

benefit in with health and wellness?

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: 00:28:09

Sure.

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: 00:28:09

Yeah, that's a great question.

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: 00:28:11

Um, I would say that when it comes to like

movement and my physical body, like my

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: 00:28:17

like current like health, Practices goals

are to just like move as much as possible

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: 00:28:24

and to like I mean really like I want

to be able to like Live as unobstructed

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: 00:28:33

as possible until my dying day, right?

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: 00:28:35

Like, I love to practice handstands.

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: 00:28:38

I love to do acrobatics.

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: 00:28:40

Um, you know, I like to lift weights.

448

: 00:28:43

And I don't really like doing

cardio, but I see the benefit in it.

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: 00:28:47

So I want to do that so that I can

climb up a mountain and not be winded.

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: 00:28:51

Uh, so I try and get in as much

like movement as I can throughout

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the week and like various forms.

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: 00:28:58

So there's always some weightlifting

in there a few times a week.

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: 00:29:01

There's usually some cardio roped in.

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: 00:29:04

There's always like the things

that I would consider to be play,

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: 00:29:08

but are still movement practices

like acrobatics, like handstands.

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: 00:29:13

Um, I have some very specific acrobatic

goals where I'm trying to really go for

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: 00:29:17

big tricks that have been really scary

for me for many years and I kind of shied

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: 00:29:22

away from and now I'm Taking a concerted

effort to, like, really go for those

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: 00:29:27

tricks, practice them every week that I

can, and just not let the fear stop me.

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: 00:29:34

And that's really, like, one of my

mental practices, is not letting the

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: 00:29:39

fear stop me from taking a step forward.

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: 00:29:42

And that comes in various forms.

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: 00:29:44

Like I said, with like acrobatic tricks,

like for those, like acroyogies out

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: 00:29:47

there, like the standing hand to hand,

the castaways, the things that like,

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: 00:29:51

maybe you don't know what that means.

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: 00:29:52

It's fine.

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: 00:29:53

Um, it's just big, scary stuff

that, um, I, it's fun though.

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: 00:29:59

And like, I'm just going to do it

no matter what my brain is saying.

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: 00:30:06

And you know, that.

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: 00:30:08

Mind discipline also, like, connects

to, like, taking steps in, like,

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: 00:30:13

my business, and, like, I'm just

going to keep moving forward.

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: 00:30:17

Even if it's scary to reach out to people,

even if it's scary to put myself on

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: 00:30:21

social media, I'm still going to do it.

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: 00:30:24

Because the more I do it,

the better I'll get at it.

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: 00:30:27

Um, so that's kind of, like, the The

movement goal in practice and like kind

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: 00:30:31

of taps into like the mental as well.

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: 00:30:34

Um when it comes to like other health

things like food, um, I don't really

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: 00:30:40

follow like a specific diet, but some

of my like current practices are Trying

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: 00:30:45

to eat as like natural as possible.

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: 00:30:49

So eating like the most unprocessed

things that I can um But you

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: 00:30:54

know, no, i'm not perfect.

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: 00:30:56

Like i'm still like a

full time working mom.

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: 00:30:58

And so occasionally it's like takeout

Um, but as much as I can eat whole foods

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: 00:31:05

I'm, really really really doing my best

to avoid seed oils because I know how Bad

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: 00:31:11

those are now after i've listened to like

so many of like your podcasts and others

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: 00:31:15

You Um, and then like trying to cook

my own meals as much as I can at home.

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: 00:31:22

Um, so that's like a

really big one as well.

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: 00:31:25

And then like some of like the more

like unseen health goals or things

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: 00:31:29

like, you know, making sure that

I have really good quality time,

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: 00:31:33

like with my friends and my family.

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: 00:31:35

And like there was, I'm not

sure there was another one that

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: 00:31:38

was on the tip of my tongue.

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: 00:31:40

Um, Shoot, having good sleep, I mean,

goes without saying, like there's so many,

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: 00:31:47

it's like you can get overwhelmed with

like how many health practices and goals

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: 00:31:51

you have, but I kind of try and look at

it as like a holistic approach, like,

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: 00:31:56

am I challenging my body and my mind?

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: 00:31:59

Am I taking enough time to like fuel

my soul and recover with things like

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: 00:32:04

sleep and connection and community?

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: 00:32:07

If that kind of answers that question

in a more holistic succinct way Yeah,

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: 00:32:12

no it does and Of course, food and

movement are so important, but it's

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: 00:32:19

really cool to see some of these other

topics that wouldn't have normally been

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: 00:32:24

kind of lumped in with health are like

starting to get a lot of recognition.

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: 00:32:29

Um, sleep, I think was always

kind of on that, kind of in that

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: 00:32:33

premise, but now it's obviously

gotten like a ton of attention,

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: 00:32:36

which it very rightfully deserves.

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: 00:32:38

But the other one is

definitely relationships.

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: 00:32:41

And I think People really, myself

included, um, don't understand how truly

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: 00:32:48

impactful good relationships are, um,

the, I'm actually, I was just looking at

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: 00:32:54

this yesterday, uh, one of the longest

studies that we have on longevity

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: 00:32:59

was done by Harvard, and it was like

spanning 80 years or something like that.

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: 00:33:04

They started in 1939.

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: 00:33:07

And it took a group of people from kind of

like a higher class, you know, at Harvard.

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: 00:33:12

Um, you know, so they had

more money and whatnot.

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: 00:33:14

And then they took.

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: 00:33:16

People from the inner city didn't

have as much income and really

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: 00:33:20

just followed them over the years

and looked at what are you eating?

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: 00:33:23

What are you doing?

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: 00:33:23

Like all these different things.

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: 00:33:24

And then they would see when

each person died along the way.

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: 00:33:28

And what they found was this group

of people that made it all the way.

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: 00:33:32

It was like your money

didn't mean anything.

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: 00:33:35

The food, sure probably plays a role to

a degree and, and movement and all that.

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: 00:33:40

But at the top of everything was

just, The people that lived the

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: 00:33:43

longest had a good community.

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: 00:33:46

They had people they could turn to

and, you know, vent to, you know, uh,

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: 00:33:51

they had people they could rely on.

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: 00:33:52

They could call them at

three in the morning because.

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: 00:33:55

I don't know, they got pulled

over or whatever it might be.

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: 00:33:58

And they had people

that they could rely on.

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: 00:34:00

And, uh, you know, it's really just

goes to show how important it is.

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: 00:34:04

I think also seeing these blue zones with

massive, strong community ties, uh, you

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: 00:34:11

know, and then they're obviously living

to over a hundred years and beyond.

533

: 00:34:15

Uh, so I think it's really cool to

see a lot of these practices coming

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: 00:34:18

in to play as well, uh, because.

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: 00:34:21

We are a connected system, right?

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: 00:34:24

Health, uh, does take into consideration

food and movement, but it also takes

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: 00:34:30

into consideration literally everything

you're doing, like your entire lifestyle.

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: 00:34:34

And, uh, there's people who can

literally nourish your soul and

539

: 00:34:38

there's people who can kind of

drain your energy, uh, for sure.

540

: 00:34:42

Um, I don't know if you've ever seen

what we do in the shadows, but they have

541

: 00:34:46

like energy vampires on there, which

is a really funny concept, but yeah.

542

: 00:34:51

Yeah, I haven't seen that.

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: 00:34:51

I feel like I have to watch it, though.

544

: 00:34:54

Yeah, I've seen a couple episodes.

545

: 00:34:55

My mom's huge on it.

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: 00:34:56

She always tries to get me

to watch episodes of it.

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: 00:34:59

So, I have seen a couple, and it's pretty

funny, um, but I haven't seen many.

548

: 00:35:03

Okay.

549

: 00:35:04

Yeah, I mean, it's totally true.

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: 00:35:06

Like, I feel like the community aspect

of, like, our health is really overlooked.

551

: 00:35:09

Like, it is, like, starting to

get a little bit more traction,

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: 00:35:12

like you said, but it's just so

important to have a community where

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: 00:35:17

you feel, like, you feel empowered.

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: 00:35:19

You're loved and

appreciated and you belong.

555

: 00:35:21

And it's not like it's

going to be perfect, right?

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: 00:35:25

No human community is

ever going to be perfect.

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: 00:35:29

But if you have a place where supported

people who you love and love you

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: 00:35:32

back, like there's nothing better.

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: 00:35:35

Yeah, it's very true.

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: 00:35:36

And unfortunately it seems that

we are moving in the opposite

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: 00:35:41

direction in a lot of ways.

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: 00:35:43

Um, you know, in one way we're more

connected than ever through social

563

: 00:35:46

media and the phone that you can

pick up and literally message or

564

: 00:35:50

call anyone you want at any time.

565

: 00:35:52

Yet at the same time, we're like

living further away from our families.

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: 00:35:56

We are, you know, living in, you know,

it's like, okay, 18 and out of the house.

567

: 00:36:01

Well, maybe not so much anymore.

568

: 00:36:02

Um, but You know, like get out of the

house, like get your own apartment and

569

: 00:36:07

just like seclude, seclude, seclude,

seclude, you know, and, and getting like

570

: 00:36:11

to the point where we're just like a micro

unit as opposed to, you know, back like

571

: 00:36:16

a hundred years ago, it was a very big

task to move far away from your family.

572

: 00:36:21

It was not like, uh, I'm renting

a U Haul and going across country.

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: 00:36:26

Like you had to really figure stuff out.

574

: 00:36:28

And so I think, um, we've slowly

just gotten to a point where.

575

: 00:36:32

We are like secluding ourselves more

and more and we're having difficulty

576

: 00:36:36

interacting with each other, but

it's So important for us to do that.

577

: 00:36:41

And, um, luckily people are

becoming aware of it and starting

578

: 00:36:45

to move in that direction.

579

: 00:36:46

So it's nice to see that.

580

: 00:36:48

Yeah, I hope so.

581

: 00:36:49

I hope we have more community.

582

: 00:36:51

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

583

: 00:36:53

Um, okay, Heather, my other question

for you, and this is going to

584

: 00:36:56

sound Very off the wall, but I'll

give you some background on this.

585

: 00:37:02

So, um, I'm a huge Ryan holiday fan.

586

: 00:37:04

He's Introduced me and I know

you're familiar with him, but he's

587

: 00:37:08

introduced me to a lot of stoic

philosophy and Mindset, all of that.

588

: 00:37:13

Like I'm really, really appreciate

the guy and all of his work that

589

: 00:37:17

he's done currently reading his book.

590

: 00:37:19

Ego is the enemy.

591

: 00:37:20

Um, what does ego, yeah.

592

: 00:37:23

What is ego to you?

593

: 00:37:24

What does ego mean to you?

594

: 00:37:27

I mean, like initially it just brings

me back to like my yoga days, right.

595

: 00:37:32

Of like the ego and like the ego

is like sort of that, like part of

596

: 00:37:37

you that's aware that you exist.

597

: 00:37:40

And, like, apologies to those people

in the yoga world, I'm probably going

598

: 00:37:44

to screw this up and this is just going

to be my interpretation of it, so I'll

599

: 00:37:47

just put that out as a disclaimer.

600

: 00:37:50

Um, I would say, like, the ego is the

part of you that's aware that you exist.

601

: 00:37:54

It's kind of like, I wouldn't say it's

your conscious mind, but it's that, like,

602

: 00:38:01

kind of judger of the conscious mind.

603

: 00:38:05

Like, the judge that's over you.

604

: 00:38:07

I mean, exists for an overall

purpose of like, you know,

605

: 00:38:13

initially to kind of keep you safe.

606

: 00:38:16

Um, but in our modern day world has

a lot of really negative impacts.

607

: 00:38:20

So like, for example, you know, most

people don't like rejection, right?

608

: 00:38:27

It's something that we try to avoid.

609

: 00:38:29

Um, it's something that

kind of gives us the cringe.

610

: 00:38:31

And so therefore, like, we don't take a

lot of risks in certain areas of our life.

611

: 00:38:36

We might not ask out that person

that we're interested in because

612

: 00:38:39

we're afraid of being rejected.

613

: 00:38:41

We might not post the things on

social media that we really want to

614

: 00:38:45

because we're afraid of rejection.

615

: 00:38:47

We might not, you know, ask our boss for

a raise because we're afraid of rejection.

616

: 00:38:54

And I would say like, you know, many

eons ago that that served a purpose

617

: 00:38:59

because, you know, like you said, we

lived with close knit, like family units.

618

: 00:39:04

We were part of a tribe.

619

: 00:39:05

And if you were rejected from

the tribe, you had to live on

620

: 00:39:08

your own, which probably meant

certain death at that point.

621

: 00:39:10

And so being not accepted by the

group was a really bad thing.

622

: 00:39:15

But nowadays.

623

: 00:39:17

Like, a little bit of rejection

is not going to mean certain

624

: 00:39:21

death, that's for sure.

625

: 00:39:23

And it gets blown out of proportion

and we just, like, don't end up taking

626

: 00:39:28

the steps forward that we really need

to, to get, you know, to our end goal.

627

: 00:39:33

Um, so yeah, I would say, like,

ego is that thing that's kind of

628

: 00:39:37

trying to protect us, but in a lot

of ways ends up being negative.

629

: 00:39:45

What does an unchecked ego look like?

630

: 00:39:51

Where does that lead someone?

631

: 00:39:52

What is that?

632

: 00:39:53

An unchecked ego?

633

: 00:39:55

Shoot, I feel like that could

be like a lot of things.

634

: 00:39:58

Um,

635

: 00:40:02

I feel like an unchecked ego is somebody

who's not really tapped in to their

636

: 00:40:08

like, true self, their higher purpose,

um, that is really grounded in like,

637

: 00:40:19

like worldly things, like that's trying

to Like this is going to sound a bit

638

: 00:40:24

cliche, but I guess like trying to gather

a lot of wealth, a lot of fame, a lot

639

: 00:40:29

of power, a lot of prestige, but isn't

really tapped into the things that make

640

: 00:40:34

us like infinitely happy, kind of like

the things we talked about before, like

641

: 00:40:38

connection to others, um, community, um,

something we haven't really touched on,

642

: 00:40:44

but like, yeah, Doing good for others, I

think, is a real, like, soul booster that

643

: 00:40:49

doesn't have anything to do with the ego.

644

: 00:40:52

Um, the ego is, like, seeking

to make the individual supreme.

645

: 00:41:00

Versus being part of a greater whole

and doing good for the greater whole.

646

: 00:41:07

Yeah, so, it's so funny, um,

literally today this happened to me.

647

: 00:41:13

And I love it because you also, you

said something here, you said, Um, you

648

: 00:41:19

know, helping out like humanity, right?

649

: 00:41:21

Like doing, doing something good

for others, which I'm a hundred

650

: 00:41:24

percent on board with as well.

651

: 00:41:25

I agree with that, but it's really funny

because today, um, and I'm just going to

652

: 00:41:31

like totally check my ego here right now.

653

: 00:41:33

Um, so I think just bear with me.

654

: 00:41:36

Um, but today after, um, so I was working

today and I walked out of a Whole Foods.

655

: 00:41:42

And on the way there was a woman

sitting there and she was, um,

656

: 00:41:46

you know, I couldn't understand

what she was asking for.

657

: 00:41:48

I didn't know if it was money or food.

658

: 00:41:50

And, um, as I had to enter back into

the store and on my way in, I could

659

: 00:41:55

see that she was just like hungry.

660

: 00:41:57

Like she was putting her mouth.

661

: 00:41:58

And so, um, personally, like a

deal with me is like, I'll, I'll

662

: 00:42:02

typically, Provide food to someone.

663

: 00:42:04

I don't usually give out like money

to just like random strangers, but I

664

: 00:42:08

will do food Anyways, I saw her and

I said, hey, like are you hungry?

665

: 00:42:11

But would you like something to eat

and she was like, yes, please just

666

: 00:42:14

you know And I was like, what would

you like and she said a little bit

667

: 00:42:17

of fruit maybe some yogurt would be

really nice You know, so easy, right?

668

: 00:42:21

Like when I spend like two three

dollars on her literally like very

669

: 00:42:26

very little amount of money and she

just was like Thank you so much.

670

: 00:42:31

God bless you.

671

: 00:42:32

Like just super appreciative.

672

: 00:42:33

Like one of those really genuine

moments where you like felt really

673

: 00:42:37

good about a task that you did.

674

: 00:42:39

And I remember like one of the

first things I thought was.

675

: 00:42:43

Oh, man, I can't wait to tell Ashley about

this or oh, and then I was like, bro, I

676

: 00:42:50

was like, no, you're not going to say and

here I am talking about it, but you're not

677

: 00:42:54

going to say anything about this because

like, you should just do this because the

678

: 00:42:58

reward of giving is the reward in itself.

679

: 00:43:01

You don't need anything beyond that.

680

: 00:43:03

Like the fact that you have done

the task and done the deed and

681

: 00:43:07

someone has benefited from it.

682

: 00:43:09

Like, that is it.

683

: 00:43:10

You, you need no other reward because you

have provided to humanity and, you know,

684

: 00:43:16

like, I would hope that if I was in that

scenario as she was, that someone would do

685

: 00:43:21

the same for me and expect nothing of it.

686

: 00:43:24

Like I wouldn't, you know, I would hope

that that person would just truly have

687

: 00:43:27

the kindness in their heart to do that.

688

: 00:43:28

And I remember walking away and

just thinking like, geez, man,

689

: 00:43:32

like get that ego in check.

690

: 00:43:34

I was, I was a little bit angry at myself,

but it was just like, no, this is good.

691

: 00:43:38

Good to like understand this.

692

: 00:43:39

And also to take this as a moment to,

To not talk about it and just keep it

693

: 00:43:45

like, you know, go without recognition.

694

: 00:43:47

So I'm, I'm truly not sharing this

as a form of recognition, but rather

695

: 00:43:50

to just mention how even in our acts

of giving and trying to like not be

696

: 00:43:56

egotistical or something like that,

um, ego can still find its way in.

697

: 00:44:01

And so, um, really just, you know,

trying to be, um, Always in tune with

698

: 00:44:07

that and just watching yourself and and

I think like you said like understanding

699

: 00:44:10

that um Goals that are beyond the

individual Are usually a pretty good

700

: 00:44:18

goal and and a way to like check the ego.

701

: 00:44:21

Would you agree with that?

702

: 00:44:22

Yeah, absolutely and like I think it's

fine to have individual goals and to do

703

: 00:44:27

things for yourself because we have to

right like it can't like If you weren't

704

: 00:44:32

working to better your financial life, you

wouldn't be able to help out that woman.

705

: 00:44:36

And it's not like, you know, we're

working so we can give all our money away.

706

: 00:44:39

Like, no, we want to do things

for ourselves and our families.

707

: 00:44:43

The more we can like give

ourself that financial freedom,

708

: 00:44:47

the more we can help out.

709

: 00:44:48

And.

710

: 00:44:49

You know it I don't know if that's like a

bit of a sidetrack, but yes, like I feel

711

: 00:44:53

like there's definitely a balance between

like Working for the greater good and

712

: 00:44:59

also individually working for yourself.

713

: 00:45:01

And if all you're doing is working

for yourself Then that looks more

714

: 00:45:05

like an unchecked ego to me anyways.

715

: 00:45:09

Um, yeah.

716

: 00:45:11

Yeah.

717

: 00:45:12

Yeah.

718

: 00:45:12

I, uh, one thing that really stuck

with me throughout the years was I

719

: 00:45:18

always, when I was younger, like, let's

say like in high school, maybe I was

720

: 00:45:22

always like, Oh man, you know, it'd

be great to have money to be able to

721

: 00:45:25

help everyone out and do this and that.

722

: 00:45:28

Well, Hey, once I'm at that

point, I'll go ahead and do it.

723

: 00:45:30

And I think it was actually one of

Ashley's professors had said, If

724

: 00:45:36

you're always waiting to be in that

position where you're able to give,

725

: 00:45:41

you're never going to do it because

technically you could give right

726

: 00:45:45

now and it doesn't have to be money.

727

: 00:45:47

It can be time.

728

: 00:45:48

It can be just lending an ear to someone.

729

: 00:45:51

It could be 2 right?

730

: 00:45:52

Like I spent 3 on her.

731

: 00:45:54

What, what is that in the

grand scheme of things?

732

: 00:45:56

It's nothing, it's, it's very, it's,

it's very little to help someone out.

733

: 00:46:00

And so I really took that to

heart that, You You don't have to

734

: 00:46:04

do these huge grandiose gestures

of giving, which are amazing.

735

: 00:46:09

And it would be incredible to

do that, but rather to start

736

: 00:46:12

giving now with what you have.

737

: 00:46:14

Because that's going to translate over and

just, you know, once you get money doesn't

738

: 00:46:19

mean that it's going to make you a better

person, like you're still going to be the

739

: 00:46:22

person that you are rather just amplified.

740

: 00:46:24

And so, um, I think it's important

to cultivate with what you have, like

741

: 00:46:29

you have everything you need now,

especially if you live in a first

742

: 00:46:32

world at least for the most part.

743

: 00:46:34

Many people do have everything they kind

of need in terms of like basic needs.

744

: 00:46:39

Um, and so you can give, you know,

you can, you can really cultivate

745

: 00:46:43

these in yourself now and, uh,

hopefully amplify them in the future.

746

: 00:46:47

Yeah, for sure.

747

: 00:46:48

I mean, it's like getting in that

habit of like having a giving

748

: 00:46:51

heart and just like growing that.

749

: 00:46:56

Yeah, yeah, it's definitely,

definitely spot on.

750

: 00:47:00

Um, and, uh, yeah, no, I appreciate

you being the ear here for that.

751

: 00:47:04

I was very interested in, in

going down that question with you.

752

: 00:47:07

Um, that book ego is the

enemy is pretty new to me.

753

: 00:47:11

And I don't know, I just felt like

you'd be a good person to bounce some

754

: 00:47:14

of those ideas off of, but, uh, I

want to move into probably the more

755

: 00:47:19

interesting part of this episode, which.

756

: 00:47:22

Is, uh, you know, I like to, I like

to kind of give the comparison to,

757

: 00:47:29

let's say, like a, and not comparing

the two completely, but fitness coach,

758

: 00:47:35

for example, if you bring up a fitness

coach, people know What a fitness coach

759

: 00:47:41

is right like, you know what to expect

they might give you a meal plan They'll

760

: 00:47:44

give you some workouts like the goal is

clear all of that good stuff Yeah, when

761

: 00:47:48

it comes to a life coach, I think people

have a less clear version or vision on

762

: 00:47:56

what that exactly entails so Um heather,

I want you to take the stage here and

763

: 00:48:03

show people what life coaching looks

like and You Yeah, use me as your example

764

: 00:48:10

because I would love to, I would love

to give people and insiders look into

765

: 00:48:14

what this actually is and what it does.

766

: 00:48:17

Um, so yeah, feel free to take it.

767

: 00:48:19

Absolutely.

768

: 00:48:20

So, I mean, like, since you brought

up that topic of like the health

769

: 00:48:23

coach, like, it's a good analogy,

um, or like a good parallel, I guess.

770

: 00:48:27

So, like, if you go to a health coach,

uh, the first thing they're going to

771

: 00:48:30

do is they're going to sit you down

and say, like, what are your goals?

772

: 00:48:33

Right?

773

: 00:48:33

Like, what do you want to achieve?

774

: 00:48:36

And so you might outline like a

certain weight you want to get to.

775

: 00:48:39

You might have a certain, um,

physical thing you want to perform.

776

: 00:48:45

Like you want to be able to do pull ups

or push ups or a backflip, who knows?

777

: 00:48:48

It could be anything.

778

: 00:48:50

Um, and so like, you would kind

of go through that with them and

779

: 00:48:54

then you'd take a, like a good hard

look at like where you're starting.

780

: 00:48:58

So, you know, if you want

to get to a certain weight

781

: 00:49:00

goal, Where are you starting?

782

: 00:49:02

If you want to get to a certain

size or a certain ability

783

: 00:49:05

level, where are you starting?

784

: 00:49:07

And then you start to map out a plan of

how to get from point A to point Z of,

785

: 00:49:13

you know, I am, you know, right now,

Zero ability to do a backflip, and I want

786

: 00:49:19

to be able to do a backflip in a year.

787

: 00:49:21

And so then, you know, my coach might

train me in specific skills and strength

788

: 00:49:26

techniques to get me to that point.

789

: 00:49:29

And we're going to practice them

throughout our time together.

790

: 00:49:32

And a life coach is

pretty similar to that.

791

: 00:49:34

So like you would go to a life coach and

the first thing you're going to do is

792

: 00:49:36

you're going to talk about your goals.

793

: 00:49:38

You're going to talk about what

it is that you want to achieve.

794

: 00:49:41

In your life.

795

: 00:49:43

Um, and really like that could be

a whole host of things, um, but

796

: 00:49:50

typically it's the things that are

most important to the individual.

797

: 00:49:52

So it might be something like, you know,

I really want to start a business and

798

: 00:49:58

I've just never had the confidence to do

so, but I think I've got what it takes.

799

: 00:50:03

Or it could be.

800

: 00:50:05

You know, honestly, I've worked with

clients who want to lose weight and we've

801

: 00:50:08

worked on that and I, I don't train them,

but I life coach them to get them there.

802

: 00:50:13

Um, it could be something like getting

settled in a new country with your family.

803

: 00:50:19

It could be, you know, meeting the partner

of your dreams, but whatever that like

804

: 00:50:24

next big goal is for you, you're going

to talk about that with your life coach.

805

: 00:50:29

Like, typically like session one, um,

or even pre session, and then we look at

806

: 00:50:35

where you're at right now, and we plan out

a strategy to get from point A to point Z.

807

: 00:50:42

And so typically, I work with my

clients for three to six months,

808

: 00:50:46

even up to a year, depending on

what it is they want to achieve.

809

: 00:50:49

And so then we baby step our way there.

810

: 00:50:52

So if, for example, You know, you're

looking to create a business and

811

: 00:50:58

you want to have this business

up and running in six months.

812

: 00:51:02

Well, then we're going to break it up

into monthly milestones, weekly practices,

813

: 00:51:08

and it's all coming from a very action

oriented place and also something

814

: 00:51:16

that feels very doable to the client.

815

: 00:51:19

Um, the goal is not to be.

816

: 00:51:22

overwhelming because

we want success, right?

817

: 00:51:26

So the role of the life coach, and this is

like the really interesting part, right?

818

: 00:51:30

Is this is probably where the health

coach and the life coach differ a bit.

819

: 00:51:35

Um, the health coach you go

to because they're an expert

820

: 00:51:38

because they're the person who's

going to give you the meal plan.

821

: 00:51:41

That's going to give you the exercises

that knows how to get you there.

822

: 00:51:45

And the life coach, I am not necessarily

the expert in your life, like if you came

823

: 00:51:51

to me and said, Heather, I want to build

a podcast, I'd be like, that's great,

824

: 00:51:54

Evan, let's do it, I'm here for you.

825

: 00:51:56

Do I know how to build a podcast?

826

: 00:51:58

No, but I can still coach you there.

827

: 00:52:02

So my role is not to tell you what

to do exactly, as it is to help you

828

: 00:52:07

outline your goals, come up with really

achievable milestones, and then like

829

: 00:52:12

weekly practices to get you there.

830

: 00:52:15

Help hold you accountable.

831

: 00:52:17

Right?

832

: 00:52:17

Because this is the big thing that

most of us have goals, but we aren't

833

: 00:52:21

actually working on them because they

get put off to the back burner because

834

: 00:52:25

you know life happens and things are

busy and Stuff gets in the way and so we

835

: 00:52:31

just don't take action And so the life

coach is there to be like, hey, remember

836

: 00:52:35

you said you're gonna do that thing.

837

: 00:52:36

Did you do that thing?

838

: 00:52:37

Like, you didn't send me the picture.

839

: 00:52:40

I didn't get the text.

840

: 00:52:41

Like, why didn't you do that thing?

841

: 00:52:43

So we're there as like the

accountability measure, right?

842

: 00:52:45

That's a really big one.

843

: 00:52:47

And we're there to kind of dig a little

deeper, to like probe a bit deeper.

844

: 00:52:51

And so my role is really to ask really

Um, empowering questions that get the

845

: 00:52:58

client thinking and that kind of take them

a bit deeper into what it is they really

846

: 00:53:04

want, what might possibly be holding

them back, and then also how to make sure

847

: 00:53:09

that it doesn't hold them back anymore

so that they're not stuck ever again.

848

: 00:53:15

Accountability is something that should

never be like belittled or, you know,

849

: 00:53:23

unaccounted for because it is literally

the difference between accomplishing

850

: 00:53:29

your goals and not accomplishing them.

851

: 00:53:31

Like a hundred and fifty million percent.

852

: 00:53:35

I see it with people

that I've worked with.

853

: 00:53:37

I see it with myself.

854

: 00:53:39

Um, that in itself is one of

the most important things I

855

: 00:53:43

think in accomplishing goals.

856

: 00:53:46

Yeah.

857

: 00:53:46

Yeah.

858

: 00:53:47

I mean, a hundred percent.

859

: 00:53:48

Like, that's really like, I worked

with one client that had huge, huge

860

: 00:53:53

goals, like wanted to reach these

major milestones in three months.

861

: 00:53:58

And I was like, okay, let's do it.

862

: 00:54:00

And honestly, like he

did, like he totally did.

863

: 00:54:05

And he was so like on top of

it on target all the time.

864

: 00:54:10

And.

865

: 00:54:11

The biggest thing he said to me was like,

I could have done this by myself all

866

: 00:54:15

along, but I never did until I had you.

867

: 00:54:19

And I knew that I was going to see

you every week and you were going

868

: 00:54:22

to ask about my like practices.

869

: 00:54:25

And if I had done them and I

didn't want to let you down.

870

: 00:54:28

And that was like the biggest

motivating factor for him,

871

: 00:54:31

which, you know, accountability.

872

: 00:54:33

is really big for a lot of people.

873

: 00:54:36

It's not like the biggest factor

for everyone, but for him it was.

874

: 00:54:42

Yeah.

875

: 00:54:42

It's, it's massive one for sure.

876

: 00:54:44

Let's run through a little bit of this.

877

: 00:54:45

How, how would you, how would you Open

up a session with someone, would you,

878

: 00:54:50

what would a typical session look like?

879

: 00:54:52

Sure.

880

: 00:54:53

So, um, I would just be like, I

mean, like we, we've discussed

881

: 00:54:58

this already to your audience, but

I'm like, are you okay with me?

882

: 00:55:01

Life coaching you, Evan?

883

: 00:55:02

Yeah.

884

: 00:55:03

Yeah.

885

: 00:55:03

Let's do it.

886

: 00:55:03

Let's do it.

887

: 00:55:04

Heather.

888

: 00:55:05

All right, let's get into it.

889

: 00:55:06

So, um, hey, Evan, thanks for

doing this session with me today.

890

: 00:55:09

I'm super excited to get into it with you.

891

: 00:55:13

Always happy to speak with

you, Heather, and glad to have

892

: 00:55:17

this moment of accountability.

893

: 00:55:20

I noticed you say that with

a little bit of trepidation.

894

: 00:55:25

It's tough, but it's good.

895

: 00:55:27

It is.

896

: 00:55:27

It is.

897

: 00:55:28

Um, so what is it that's

on your mind lately, Evan?

898

: 00:55:32

Like, what's something that you

would like to work on that you

899

: 00:55:35

feel like's been holding you back?

900

: 00:55:38

Yeah, it's one thing I've been working

on, and I think I'm trying to perfect

901

: 00:55:45

it, is My time management and more

specifically my time management with,

902

: 00:55:53

uh, miscellaneous tasks and my podcast.

903

: 00:55:58

So one of the big things I've been doing

recently is I've shifted from trying

904

: 00:56:05

to get like an hour's worth of work

after already doing my, you know, main

905

: 00:56:12

job and then, you know, coming home.

906

: 00:56:14

Um, Like eating real quick and then

trying to just like hammer out some work.

907

: 00:56:19

So I would do like an hour every

single night, pretty much Monday

908

: 00:56:23

through Thursday or Friday or so.

909

: 00:56:25

And, um, and then I would kind of just

take my weekends off, although I was

910

: 00:56:28

typically still busy on the weekends.

911

: 00:56:30

And something I've recently done is I've

stopped doing that and I've dedicated

912

: 00:56:35

more of a, Block hour, um, not hour,

but like block time on Sunday to sit

913

: 00:56:43

down and really just go through, like,

for example, my podcast and really just

914

: 00:56:47

designate some time to it to where I

can really get into it and, you know,

915

: 00:56:51

put maybe three or four hours in one go

towards it, which I've done it two times

916

: 00:56:59

now, and it's been really, really great.

917

: 00:57:02

Um, but I'm definitely seeing that,

you know, moving forward, it's

918

: 00:57:08

going to be something that I'm going

to have to prioritize and really

919

: 00:57:11

schedule in because it's easy to

make, allow it to go to the wayside.

920

: 00:57:15

Sure.

921

: 00:57:15

Sure.

922

: 00:57:16

Sure.

923

: 00:57:16

Okay.

924

: 00:57:17

So, I mean, tell me more about like

what prompted you to make this change?

925

: 00:57:25

What prompted me was I would be, you

know, I release the episode every

926

: 00:57:33

single Wednesday and a lot of the

times I'll be Cleaning up an episode

927

: 00:57:40

the night before I release it and it's

like maybe I'll even have a couple

928

: 00:57:45

episodes already Recorded but I haven't

cleaned any of them up and edited them.

929

: 00:57:49

So then I find myself

on Tuesday at 9 30 p.

930

: 00:57:54

m.

931

: 00:57:55

Crunching through a episode trying to

really, you know, make sure it sounds

932

: 00:58:00

good and Um, you know, has all the

parts to it and it's trimmed and then

933

: 00:58:05

I got to worry about the video content

and just, you know, all, all the, all

934

: 00:58:08

the stuff that comes along with it.

935

: 00:58:10

And then it's like, I know I'm going to

be up at five o'clock the next morning.

936

: 00:58:13

So then I'm trying to

like rush through it.

937

: 00:58:15

And it just got to a point where, um,

I actually had a week, the very first

938

: 00:58:22

week in over two years where I missed

a week of an episode because, um, I

939

: 00:58:28

was literally editing an episode and

then I am not the most technology

940

: 00:58:34

gift, uh, technologically gifted.

941

: 00:58:37

And so I deleted all of my work.

942

: 00:58:40

That one took me like

hours on hours on hours.

943

: 00:58:44

And it was like almost

10 o'clock at night.

944

: 00:58:47

And it was like, Okay, do I just catch

two or three hours of sleep this night

945

: 00:58:52

and make sure this episode comes up on

time or Do I just announce that there

946

: 00:58:56

is no episode this week and i'm going

to ensure that I have some really good

947

: 00:59:02

episodes coming up in the following weeks.

948

: 00:59:04

And so that right there was my

really It was like the the straw

949

: 00:59:08

that broke the camel's back for sure.

950

: 00:59:09

It's what made me Re evaluate it

and say no you have to find a time

951

: 00:59:15

That's more designated and more

efficient for you to get these done.

952

: 00:59:19

Yeah.

953

: 00:59:20

Yeah So what i'm really hearing here

is like you're saying Like you were

954

: 00:59:25

feeling really stressed And that you

were trying to kind of squeeze in this

955

: 00:59:30

work that requires a lot of thought

focus and energy into a time where you

956

: 00:59:35

didn't really have a lot of focus and

energy and then it was resulting in, uh,

957

: 00:59:40

feeling kind of frantic and stressed.

958

: 00:59:43

Yeah.

959

: 00:59:43

Hundred hundred percent.

960

: 00:59:46

Yeah.

961

: 00:59:47

So now that you've made this change

and you're doing your podcast

962

: 00:59:51

editing on Sundays, how do you feel?

963

: 00:59:58

It feels really good.

964

: 00:59:59

Um, I think it's a little bit harder to.

965

: 01:00:04

Set that time aside and to really like,

you know, I already have typically, you

966

: 01:00:10

know, Monday through Friday are for sure

completely scheduled and jam packed.

967

: 01:00:14

Saturday as well can be

pretty jam packed depending.

968

: 01:00:17

Um, and then Sunday is pretty much

my only day free and it's a tough

969

: 01:00:21

thing to be like, cool, I'm going

to take three or four hours out of

970

: 01:00:24

this day and just, Do more work.

971

: 01:00:26

So, um, I think that's hard, but the

thing is, is that when I do it, especially

972

: 01:00:31

if I just get up at a good hour and

actually get after it, I'm really like

973

: 01:00:35

focused on the work that I'm doing.

974

: 01:00:36

I can actually get a good amount of work

done in a relatively small amount of time.

975

: 01:00:42

And then on top of that, it frees

up every single evening, Monday

976

: 01:00:46

through Friday, which is so nice.

977

: 01:00:48

Yeah.

978

: 01:00:49

Yeah.

979

: 01:00:49

I get that.

980

: 01:00:50

I definitely hear like

the struggle too, right?

981

: 01:00:52

Is that you're Like already working a lot

like a full time job plus like podcasts

982

: 01:00:59

on top of it and then like trying to do

things on The weekends and so like the

983

: 01:01:02

tough part if i'm hearing this correctly

You can you can tell me if i'm not is

984

: 01:01:07

that it doesn't feel like you're getting

a lot of downtime or like self care

985

: 01:01:11

time Yeah, yeah, definitely trying to

find the Self care time has, um, it's

986

: 01:01:19

there and I think I'm slowly finding

places where I can have more of it.

987

: 01:01:25

Like even in the evenings of my,

you know, Monday through Friday

988

: 01:01:29

kind of weekday, uh, times.

989

: 01:01:32

But, um, yeah, but I do know that when

I'm doing these Sunday sessions, I

990

: 01:01:39

also have the opportunity to get ahead

and set myself up for, Possibly more

991

: 01:01:45

downtime in the future as long as I

can be disciplined in the Near future.

992

: 01:01:52

Yeah, so what would like a really dreamy?

993

: 01:01:57

Schedule look like for you.

994

: 01:02:01

Ooh It would probably look like Monday

through friday Pretty busy and i'm cool

995

: 01:02:11

with that And a saturday Um You know

depending on what's going on that Saturday

996

: 01:02:18

like possibly open possibly busy But

then maybe even like every other Sunday

997

: 01:02:24

off Pretty much and then with one Sunday

on and maybe just going hard at it.

998

: 01:02:30

Okay.

999

: 01:02:31

Okay, so every other

Sunday Nothing completely.

: 1000

01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:36,850

Oh, yeah.

: 1001

01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,240

Yeah, that'd be sweet.

: 1002

01:02:38,930 --> 01:02:44,740

Okay, and How possible is that for you

to carve out for yourself right now?

: 1003

01:02:46,285 --> 01:02:54,065

It's possible, but I do think that in,

for the next like, let's just say, Like

: 1004

01:02:54,075 --> 01:02:58,975

month, I would have to really be super

strategic and maybe even put in a little

: 1005

01:02:58,985 --> 01:03:04,875

extra time on the Sunday sessions to

like really get myself ahead and, you

: 1006

01:03:04,875 --> 01:03:10,055

know, have episodes like ready to go

and, you know, like completely edited

: 1007

01:03:10,055 --> 01:03:13,245

all that good stuff so that then I could.

: 1008

01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:17,560

Really just utilize the every

other Sunday as like, uh, hey,

: 1009

01:03:17,590 --> 01:03:18,530

let's really get after it.

: 1010

01:03:18,540 --> 01:03:22,470

Make sure we have you know So many

episodes ready to go and then that way

: 1011

01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:29,200

next Sunday could be a total just like

chill and easygoing day Yeah so I heard

: 1012

01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,330

you say like it would mean that you'd

have to put in some extra work and like

: 1013

01:03:32,330 --> 01:03:37,560

really go like Hardcore discipline to

make that happen within the next month.

: 1014

01:03:38,570 --> 01:03:40,490

How motivated are you to do that?

: 1015

01:03:41,690 --> 01:03:45,910

Actually probably this

month Not super motivated.

: 1016

01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:55,050

I'm the reason for that being Is that I

have within the next like six weeks a lot

: 1017

01:03:55,070 --> 01:04:03,350

going on at work but Beyond that I think

when that would calm down I would be like

: 1018

01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:09,270

really motivated to like have that free

time because then I would be I would be

: 1019

01:04:09,290 --> 01:04:14,520

able to dedicate a little bit more time

to the podcast and then really Down the

: 1020

01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,000

line actually have that like open sunday.

: 1021

01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,904

So I would say like Here in

the immediate, immediate sense,

: 1022

01:04:19,915 --> 01:04:21,285

it's going to be so difficult.

: 1023

01:04:21,305 --> 01:04:24,535

I don't know if I'm honestly willing

to like put myself through that at the

: 1024

01:04:24,535 --> 01:04:30,635

moment, but I think, um, yeah, in like,

it would almost be exactly six weeks, five

: 1025

01:04:30,635 --> 01:04:35,185

or six weeks from now, it would calm down

and it would be an opportunity for that.

: 1026

01:04:35,315 --> 01:04:37,230

And I would be very motivated to do that.

: 1027

01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:39,510

Okay, okay, and that's totally fair.

: 1028

01:04:39,940 --> 01:04:44,420

So, within the next six weeks, this is

not the plan, because it's not going

: 1029

01:04:44,420 --> 01:04:48,980

to work for your lifestyle, right in

this, excuse me, immediate six weeks.

: 1030

01:04:49,630 --> 01:04:53,810

But, after that six weeks, I'm

hearing like, yeah, I would go for

: 1031

01:04:53,810 --> 01:04:56,550

that, because it would be worth it

at that point, and I could handle it.

: 1032

01:04:58,380 --> 01:05:04,560

Okay, and then within this

immediate six weeks, just to give

: 1033

01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:05,990

you a little bit of relief, right?

: 1034

01:05:06,020 --> 01:05:13,300

So that, like, you could get some

semblance of this, like, free time that it

: 1035

01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:14,930

feels like you're craving a little bit of.

: 1036

01:05:16,850 --> 01:05:21,160

What do you see as possible for

you within these next six weeks?

: 1037

01:05:21,210 --> 01:05:26,540

Like, where could you

carve out some free time?

: 1038

01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,320

I think that Sunday could

largely be a free day.

: 1039

01:05:33,700 --> 01:05:37,700

Even with me working on the podcast,

but rather, once again, freedom

: 1040

01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:41,700

with discipline, I would need to

be very disciplined on my Sundays.

: 1041

01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:45,510

And, you know, not that I have

to wake up at five o'clock,

: 1042

01:05:45,550 --> 01:05:47,779

but maybe six or six thirty.

: 1043

01:05:48,150 --> 01:05:54,200

Get a little sleep, sleep in time, but

then really for, you know, right upon

: 1044

01:05:54,200 --> 01:06:00,070

waking up, maybe have a little moment

of coffee and reading or meditation or

: 1045

01:06:00,070 --> 01:06:05,210

whatever, and then just getting after

the work, sitting down, getting after it,

: 1046

01:06:05,210 --> 01:06:11,850

and then finding myself with literally,

you know, from Like, 11 o'clock on, free.

: 1047

01:06:11,990 --> 01:06:12,220

Mm hmm.

: 1048

01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:13,100

Okay.

: 1049

01:06:13,550 --> 01:06:16,170

And now that you've just said that,

like, how does that make you feel?

: 1050

01:06:17,860 --> 01:06:18,620

It'd be nice.

: 1051

01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,279

Okay!

: 1052

01:06:20,540 --> 01:06:21,300

It feels good.

: 1053

01:06:21,310 --> 01:06:22,140

, it would be awesome.

: 1054

01:06:22,140 --> 01:06:24,850

I mean, I would, I don't

even know what I would do.

: 1055

01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,790

I would, I would just enjoy the time.

: 1056

01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:28,290

It would be so good.

: 1057

01:06:29,310 --> 01:06:32,660

So how committed are you

to doing that this week?

: 1058

01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:36,020

I'm super committed to doing it.

: 1059

01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:42,590

Um, I think here recently I've really

just, ever since that week of missing

: 1060

01:06:42,590 --> 01:06:48,460

an episode, I've been like really

dialed in on wanting to make sure

: 1061

01:06:48,460 --> 01:06:50,700

that Sunday is the day for that.

: 1062

01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:56,779

And so I would say, yeah, I'm like,

I'm, I'm quite committed to doing that.

: 1063

01:06:56,820 --> 01:06:58,270

Um, it would have to be.

: 1064

01:06:58,610 --> 01:07:03,440

Like I don't know a big event on a

Sunday for me to be like, okay cool

: 1065

01:07:03,490 --> 01:07:05,170

Like I can't do anything on this day.

: 1066

01:07:05,540 --> 01:07:11,640

Mm hmm So this week you're committed

to saying like I'm gonna wake up

: 1067

01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,529

early on Sunday I'll have my morning

time to myself to like coffee

: 1068

01:07:16,529 --> 01:07:18,160

meditate get your head, right?

: 1069

01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,020

Get into the work and then once

the work's done, put it away and

: 1070

01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:23,350

have the rest of your day free.

: 1071

01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:25,420

Yeah.

: 1072

01:07:25,540 --> 01:07:25,850

Okay.

: 1073

01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:26,310

Sure.

: 1074

01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,660

So give it a shot and then, okay,

so here I am as your life coach.

: 1075

01:07:31,660 --> 01:07:36,190

Like I want you to text me Sunday

night and tell me how it went.

: 1076

01:07:36,490 --> 01:07:36,970

How it felt.

: 1077

01:07:38,170 --> 01:07:38,610

Okay.

: 1078

01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:39,220

I got you.

: 1079

01:07:39,570 --> 01:07:39,870

Yeah.

: 1080

01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:41,860

I already got you on, on speed dial.

: 1081

01:07:42,140 --> 01:07:42,779

Um, yeah.

: 1082

01:07:42,779 --> 01:07:43,160

Yeah.

: 1083

01:07:44,250 --> 01:07:45,430

So, okay.

: 1084

01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:49,220

So this is what you're committing

to for this week is trying out

: 1085

01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:52,090

this kind of half Sunday schedule.

: 1086

01:07:53,140 --> 01:07:56,650

It wasn't necessarily practical for

you to have a full day off on Sunday,

: 1087

01:07:57,060 --> 01:08:00,835

but a half day off sounds We're

approximating what you're wanting.

: 1088

01:08:01,585 --> 01:08:02,685

Yes, 100%.

: 1089

01:08:03,505 --> 01:08:08,125

And that's not to say, uh, as well,

the occasional Saturday that opens up

: 1090

01:08:08,125 --> 01:08:11,035

as well, which is always very nice.

: 1091

01:08:11,335 --> 01:08:11,895

Yeah.

: 1092

01:08:12,825 --> 01:08:16,145

So, how are you feeling right

now around, like, your original

: 1093

01:08:16,145 --> 01:08:19,015

request of, like, trying to figure

out this time management piece?

: 1094

01:08:19,930 --> 01:08:20,590

Yeah, I feel good.

: 1095

01:08:20,590 --> 01:08:23,130

I feel definitely more clarity.

: 1096

01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:28,700

I think moving further down the line

because I think immediately I knew

: 1097

01:08:28,700 --> 01:08:32,890

I wanted to do this Sunday session,

but I think now I have more of an

: 1098

01:08:32,890 --> 01:08:37,640

idea of like how this could actually

look two, three, four months out from

: 1099

01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,840

now and kind of like the freedom and

availability that that would provide.

: 1100

01:08:42,290 --> 01:08:42,840

Yeah.

: 1101

01:08:43,460 --> 01:08:43,920

Yeah.

: 1102

01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:44,790

I love that.

: 1103

01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:49,340

And so like working to this point where

you could have a full Sunday off and then.

: 1104

01:08:49,715 --> 01:08:54,385

My other question is, like, since, like,

you are kind of craving a little bit

: 1105

01:08:54,385 --> 01:09:00,625

more breathing room, is there any other

place in your week where you could fit

: 1106

01:09:00,635 --> 01:09:03,154

in a little bit of unscheduled time?

: 1107

01:09:04,694 --> 01:09:11,675

Fridays tend to be One of the more chill

days for me and I feel like that has

: 1108

01:09:11,675 --> 01:09:17,425

been a day traditionally where I'm able

to Kind of have like a really hard stop

: 1109

01:09:17,495 --> 01:09:23,505

on my work and then really just kind

of like Enjoy the evening on a friday,

: 1110

01:09:23,505 --> 01:09:28,765

which is always really nice and honestly

ritual being The amazing company that

: 1111

01:09:28,765 --> 01:09:34,415

it is they give all of their employees

every fourth friday of the month off so

: 1112

01:09:34,415 --> 01:09:39,425

You It's yeah, I mean like they're an

absolute heaven sent and it's incredible

: 1113

01:09:39,425 --> 01:09:45,154

and when that happens It's like a great

opportunity to just catch up on stuff

: 1114

01:09:45,675 --> 01:09:49,665

Take it easy, you know do all the all the

things that you've been needing to do.

: 1115

01:09:49,665 --> 01:09:55,135

So it's it's really awesome Okay, so

you've got like at least one other place

: 1116

01:09:55,345 --> 01:09:59,345

where you can fit in some like breathing

room like Friday evenings of like not

: 1117

01:09:59,345 --> 01:10:03,075

Working taking care of you Absolutely.

: 1118

01:10:03,625 --> 01:10:04,165

Okay.

: 1119

01:10:05,015 --> 01:10:07,315

So, I'm going to hold you to it.

: 1120

01:10:08,315 --> 01:10:09,755

Do your half Sunday off.

: 1121

01:10:10,425 --> 01:10:12,745

And it's kind of like what we

talked about before, right?

: 1122

01:10:12,765 --> 01:10:14,115

The discipline equals freedom.

: 1123

01:10:15,345 --> 01:10:20,915

And let me know how it feels, how it

goes, and know that, like, this is your

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schedule, and so if something doesn't

feel right, if it's not working, then it's

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a place we can revisit and always, you

know, modify and make it work for you.

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But I think you've got a really good like

first step of like trying this out And

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then also with like an eye on the long

term of like six weeks from now Maybe

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we can expand on it a little bit 100.

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, I tend to do well in a in a short term

like future site but uh the long term is

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something I don't normally pay attention

to so that's a nice thing to have a

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little bit more clarity on for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I love it.

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And I, I mean, I know we're keeping

this like session a little bit short.

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And so we're kind of just tapping into

like a really mini part of your Like

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schedule and your time management, like

focus, but it's definitely something

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that could be expanded upon and like

gotten, gotten into and like more depth

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and like looked at a bit further, which

I'd totally be happy to do with you

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at any point, but, you know, just so.

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01:11:22,265 --> 01:11:25,815

Listeners know that this is like

just a little like snippet of

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like a life coaching session.

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Yeah.

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No, it's Really nice to have an

ear to speak with and have someone

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actually bounce actionable steps

back to you So I appreciate it.

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01:11:37,275 --> 01:11:37,625

Of course.

: 1147

01:11:37,625 --> 01:11:42,434

Yeah, like like you said this was a mini

piece, but also a very important piece

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for me so I really appreciate you doing

that with me because it is something

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that has been um, Mentally pulling a

lot of my attention and energy so I

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appreciate that right Right, right, right.

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Yeah.

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01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,680

And that's, I mean, I totally get that.

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Like I'm super busy as well.

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And so I know how that feels when you're

just like, Oh my gosh, my schedule is so

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busy and you just feel really overwhelmed.

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01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:10,000

And I mean, there are ways, even if you

are a busy person, like you are like

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to heal your relationship with time,

to be able to accomplish the things

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01:12:13,790 --> 01:12:17,450

that you want to and need to, but still

feel like you have some breathing room.

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01:12:17,450 --> 01:12:19,000

Like it's very possible.

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Everything is figureoutable.

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01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:25,260

And like, I mean, like I said,

this was just a mini session.

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01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:28,240

So there's definitely like

deeper and deeper we can go and

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01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,430

like more epiphanies to be had.

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01:12:30,809 --> 01:12:33,890

And you know, like I said, I

said somewhere in the podcast, I

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01:12:33,900 --> 01:12:37,730

typically work with clients anywhere

from like three to like 12 months.

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01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:40,960

And so like you just get

further down this path.

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01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:47,260

Um, I think the really cool thing is like,

I am not the expert on your schedule.

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01:12:47,780 --> 01:12:51,000

I, I don't think that that would

be possible for me to do that.

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01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,510

Like, I'm not going to tell you,

well, here's what you should do,

: 1170

01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:56,070

Evan, because I don't know what's

going to work for your life.

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01:12:56,370 --> 01:13:01,990

But the more I can question and

kind of peel back those layers, the

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01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:08,005

more it reveals to you, like, What

steps, what steps are possible?

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01:13:08,755 --> 01:13:10,015

Yeah, for sure.

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01:13:10,035 --> 01:13:10,465

For sure.

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01:13:10,465 --> 01:13:10,795

It does.

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01:13:10,795 --> 01:13:14,885

And, and it's the questions that need

to be asked that we don't ask ourselves.

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So I appreciate that.

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01:13:17,495 --> 01:13:24,275

Now I know you Heather, and I mean

I've, I've been taking yoga classes

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01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:28,495

from you for so long and we hang

out and yeah, we just like, yeah,

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you're one of my favorite people.

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01:13:29,995 --> 01:13:33,815

But for someone who is new to

you or this episode or this

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01:13:33,816 --> 01:13:36,615

podcast, how would they go about?

: 1183

01:13:36,980 --> 01:13:41,270

Even starting down the path

of life coaching, contact you.

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01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:43,080

Like what is, what are the

first steps even look like?

: 1185

01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:46,970

Yeah, well I think the easiest

way honestly is my Instagram.

: 1186

01:13:46,980 --> 01:13:49,990

Like I'm pretty active on

Instagram and it is just my name.

: 1187

01:13:50,020 --> 01:13:53,890

So it's at Heather Murillo, um,

which hopefully you could just

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01:13:53,890 --> 01:13:55,000

drop that in the show notes.

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01:13:55,540 --> 01:14:00,690

Um, so yeah, they could totally contact

me there and actually wanted to offer

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01:14:00,690 --> 01:14:02,970

all of your listeners a little free gift.

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01:14:02,971 --> 01:14:03,255

so much.

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01:14:03,405 --> 01:14:08,285

So if they, um, go to Instagram

and follow me and send me a DM, if

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01:14:08,285 --> 01:14:14,525

they just DM me Evan, then I will

gift them a free 15 minute session.

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01:14:15,434 --> 01:14:16,005

That's awesome.

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01:14:16,115 --> 01:14:16,605

I love that.

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01:14:16,615 --> 01:14:20,535

So essentially what was provided

right here and, but for each and

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01:14:20,535 --> 01:14:21,515

every person, that's amazing.

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01:14:23,125 --> 01:14:23,885

Okay, cool.

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01:14:23,915 --> 01:14:27,335

Well, that's definitely going to be

in the show notes for sure, as well

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01:14:27,335 --> 01:14:31,865

as any and every other thing that

you want included in which ways they

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01:14:31,865 --> 01:14:34,945

can find you, contact you, connect

with you, all that good stuff.

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01:14:35,190 --> 01:14:36,710

We'll also be sure to have in there.

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01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:42,400

Um, but yeah, that's an amazing way,

uh, to get in touch with you and to also

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01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:47,260

see if y'all are a great fit and kind

of go down that path of life coaching,

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01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:51,910

which, um, personally I think people

can have a lot of benefit from because

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01:14:52,250 --> 01:14:55,110

like I said, we don't tend to ask

ourselves these important questions.

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01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,320

I know I definitely

struggle with it for sure.

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01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:58,050

Yeah.

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01:14:58,110 --> 01:15:02,650

I mean, and it's interesting

because like I prior to my own life

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coaching journey, like didn't really

understand the process of it either.

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01:15:07,460 --> 01:15:11,920

And I think, I mean, I've seen the benefit

in my life and so many of my other clients

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01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:15,600

lives, like it's really transformational.

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01:15:15,710 --> 01:15:20,530

So I think if, you know, you're feeling

like there are some places in your

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01:15:20,530 --> 01:15:23,670

life that need a little bit further

examination, if there's goals you've

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01:15:23,670 --> 01:15:28,860

been putting off and you're ready

to take action, then Now's the time.

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01:15:28,860 --> 01:15:31,090

Like there's no better time to

just talk to a life coach and

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01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,580

see what they have to offer.

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01:15:33,420 --> 01:15:35,640

Yeah, no, that's, that's it right there.

: 1219

01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,840

Heather, um, Heather, I

appreciate you so much.

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01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,680

I said it just a minute ago, but you

are, you're one of my favorite people.

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01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:48,565

You're an awesome person and you bring

a lot of, uh, Just like I know it's so

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01:15:48,565 --> 01:15:53,045

cliche, but like good energy to every

group and setting that you come to.

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01:15:53,065 --> 01:15:55,045

So I really do appreciate it, Heather.

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01:15:55,045 --> 01:16:00,405

And, and thank you for chatting with me,

uh, on this podcast episode today and,

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01:16:00,615 --> 01:16:04,135

you know, diving deep on some of the

questions that I've been kind of wanting

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01:16:04,135 --> 01:16:07,665

to ask you for a while and, uh, other

questions that just kind of came about.

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01:16:07,665 --> 01:16:13,250

And also to show, Uh, this new

like time in your life as well as

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01:16:13,250 --> 01:16:15,760

like the new things that you're

doing, which are incredible.

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,370

And I'm always just a huge supporter

of you because yeah, like I said,

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01:16:19,370 --> 01:16:21,860

you bring the good energy and I

think that's what it's all about.

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01:16:21,870 --> 01:16:23,760

So Heather, thank you very much.

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01:16:23,770 --> 01:16:25,660

Um, I'm going to open

the floor here for you.

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01:16:25,660 --> 01:16:26,700

Just one last time.

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Yeah.

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I want to say anything to the listeners,

but just know, uh, for all the listeners

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out there that everything will be like

in the description in the show notes.

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So if you are curious about anything,

you can just click down there.

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01:16:37,905 --> 01:16:39,335

Thank you so much, Evan.

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01:16:39,345 --> 01:16:41,184

Honestly, I just appreciate you so much.

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And I mean, right back at you, like

one of my favorite people, like just an

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01:16:46,425 --> 01:16:52,025

all around amazing human that genuinely

cares about people and doing good in

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01:16:52,025 --> 01:16:55,805

this world, and there should just be

more people like you, and I hope that

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01:16:55,815 --> 01:17:01,505

all of your listeners know how really

honest and, um, forthright you are.

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01:17:01,555 --> 01:17:02,655

And I really appreciate that.

: 1245

01:17:02,725 --> 01:17:04,485

And so friends for life, man.

: 1246

01:17:06,015 --> 01:17:06,595

Thank you, Heather.

: 1247

01:17:06,645 --> 01:17:07,645

No, I, a hundred percent.

: 1248

01:17:07,930 --> 01:17:13,510

Yeah, no, definitely friends for

life, BFFFs, however you say it.

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01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:16,700

Um, I appreciate you, Heather,

and thank you so much.

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Thank you, Evan.

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01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:20,120

Alrighty, y'all, you know the deal.

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01:17:20,140 --> 01:17:21,980

It's do everything with good

intentions, connect your

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01:17:21,980 --> 01:17:23,940

elements, and check out Heather.

: 1254

01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:24,820

She'll be in the show notes.

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Peace.